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    Any decorators on here?

    Can you paint matt emulsion over vinyl silk? I have googled it but seems to be lots of conflicting opinions.

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    Re: Any decorators on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lung View Post
    Can you paint matt emulsion over vinyl silk? I have googled it but seems to be lots of conflicting opinions.
    I certainly have in the past, make sure its clean though

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    Re: Any decorators on here?

    I would give it a go but first I would key the surface with my sander using a fairly fine paper. Just my unqualified opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    I would give it a go but first I would key the surface with my sander using a fairly fine paper. Just my unqualified opinion.
    Exactly that. Done it many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Exactly that. Done it many times.
    ditto

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    You have to sand the entire surface. Not much, but there'll be dust everywhere. Have you considered wallpaper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    You have to sand the entire surface. Not much, but there'll be dust everywhere. Have you considered wallpaper?
    Nah, I hate wallpaper. I'll just chuck some more vinyl silk on I think.

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    Re: Any decorators on here?

    You can put on a coat of obliterating base paint on it , if the silk is particularly shiny silk put two on

    You don't need to be sanding it , that's very intensive work , modern matt emulsion paints used as base coats, as you are doing in this situation will harden off and give you a key or foundation for top coats

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    Re: Any decorators on here?

    Nah, a couple of you are missing the point. If your that worried about dust you can always use a piece of sand paper and do it manually. I'm not on about sanding it down before painting, I'm on about using a fine sandpaper and just keying it as opposed to sanding. Hardly any pressure and hardly any dust to just take the sheen of to let the new paint stick evenly to the surface.

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    Re: Any decorators on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    Nah, a couple of you are missing the point. If your that worried about dust you can always use a piece of sand paper and do it manually. I'm not on about sanding it down before painting, I'm on about using a fine sandpaper and just keying it as opposed to sanding. Hardly any pressure and hardly any dust to just take the sheen of to let the new paint stick evenly to the surface.
    I think that's not needed . Modern emulsion paints will stick well to even glossy vinyl walls

    Stick two coats on , leave it a day to harden up , apply new paint system

    👍

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    Zinsser Guard paint is the best stuff to put on silk pained surfaces . It's flexible and unlike cheap emulsion won't crack

    I certainly wouldn't sand the walls to give them a key , that could take a while and if you missed any areas whilst sanding lightly then the top coat could peel

    That's what I was taught anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Zinsser Guard paint is the best stuff to put on silk pained surfaces . It's flexible and unlike cheap emulsion won't crack

    I certainly wouldn't sand the walls to give them a key , that could take a while and if you missed any areas whilst sanding lightly then the top coat could peel

    That's what I was taught anyway
    Bloody 'ell!
    For once, I find myself nodding my head in agreement with you, Sludge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    Bloody 'ell!
    For once, I find myself nodding my head in agreement with you, Sludge!
    It won't be the first time

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    I'd move house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    You have to sand the entire surface. Not much, but there'll be dust everywhere. Have you considered wallpaper?
    Who uses wallpaper these days?

    We've had loads done recently and paper is a no no. Clean walls so much neater.

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    When I bought my first flat, I had to redecorate.
    Previous owners, over the years, had put up anaglypta wallpaper, then painted over it, then put up more anaglypta over that, painted over that, then repeated a third time.
    Bloody nightmare to get it off.
    As this was the 70s, once I had cleaned it all, I put up some woodchip (Ugh these days, I know) and painted over with silk emulsion. It looked nice, and lasted years - it was described as "a well decorated flat" when I sold it and moved on.

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    Re: Any decorators on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Who uses wallpaper these days?

    We've had loads done recently and paper is a no no. Clean walls so much neater.
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    Wallpaper is still a very useful weapon for a decorator , especially if the walls are a bit old and need lots of prep work to get a flat surface.......rather than replastering the walls .....or to give a flat even surface to apply a patterned paper onto ......a lot of elderly people still like .....for example .....flowery patterns

    If you tried to apply a wallpaper to a wall painted with a vinyl shiny paint the wallpaper might not stick ......but it would if a flat lining paper was put up first ......its so easy to put paper onto lining paper

    Also if the walls are in poor condition and the customer isn't up for replastering the walls with a skim .....and a decent decorator will always suggest this .....then lining the walls can cover up a multitude of sins

    I would always prefer a flat finish but wallpaper is still very useful . 👍

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