Is this fact or opinion, because I know a few girls who just wanted to enjoy life without any consequences.Originally Posted by lardy
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Is this fact or opinion, because I know a few girls who just wanted to enjoy life without any consequences.
I didn't ask to be born in the first place. Not that it would have made any difference because I wouldn't have been sentient at the time.
Anyway, I'm off to deal with this quantum singularity that's been bugging me for a while.
Edit: and a life without consequences sounds awesome. In fact, if I wasn't alive, I wouldn't be in so much f*cking pain. It's kind of a circular argument.
I think you may be reaching a bit here.
I was arguing against the point that because something is a living organism that it makes it relevant.
Were there not already laws in place to prevent non-essential/emergency (as in: obvious risk to mother or baby) abortions in the second trimester and outright bans beyond that gestational stage?
The "unborn child" will now have more human rights in certain states than the women who will be forced to carry it to term.
Tell me more.
To tell you the truth, I can't be bothered
Surprise, surpriseTo tell you the truth, I can't be bothered
I’m not against abortion, but something that always puzzles me, is we pass a law that allows a human life to be terminated, where the human has obviously no say in the matter, yet we don’t allow a human of sound mind, suffering from excruciating pain and no quality of life, to decide on terminating their own life. ??
Life is full of complexities, some people will argue for rights in specific circumstances, based on political ideology.
I don't believe this for a second.
There's no way that you know a few girls
Ironically the most vocal anti abortions voices are ultra religious evangelicals who seem to ignore the Bible, Numbers 5, which advocates for forced miscarriages (to be done by priests using poisonous water) if a woman becomes pregnant by another man other than her husband.
Also, twitter is exploding of women speaking out naming ardent pro life republican senators (or their sons) who paid for them, even forced them to have an abortion.
Ivanka Trumps college friends are also calling her out asking why she's so quiet about abortions when she wasn't so quiet when they took her to have an abortion in college.
The hypocrisy is astounding
It's funny how conservative evangelical males are so pro life until they get the wrong woman pregnant
So much is messed up with this rant.
To start with, I've met thousands of evangelical Christians (no other type of Christian exists if you actually read Christ's Words in Matthew 28:19), and NONE of them have been religious, let alone ultra religious!?
As for the rest, you've discovered that human beings are hypocrites; no press conference required
So much is messed up with this rant.
To start with, I've met thousands of evangelical Christians (no other type of Christian exists if you actually read Christ's Words in Matthew 28:19), and NONE of them have been religious, let alone ultra religious!?
As for the rest, you've discovered that human beings are hypocrites; no press conference required
There is a very vocal minority of typically white evangelical conservative Christians in America who are influential, bigoted, loud, toxic and nasty whom are setting the rules for the rest of the US. I would say they are 'religious' zealots and extremists. Other Christians do exist.. but they don't get the level of influence of the extremists in the US.
Interesting to see this republican congresswoman on stage with Trump say that it's a victory for white life.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ite-life-trump
The embryo is host to the body. what happens if the embryo dies in the host body (still born) is that then also murder.
Get a grip people. And in this whole scenario it is women once again that are held accountable!! Not the guy who popped his wad into her.
Of course it can't be resolved without the involvement of politics.
Politics (from Greek: Πολιτικά, politiká, 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals,
The Supreme Court ruling was based on the United States constitution as a matter of law, while all the noise is coming from political commentators, and it seems as though people can't separate these two things.
On reading up on this decision it appears its not totally band In the USA, they have returned the decision back to the states / people, for example some states will allow it up to 15 weeks others won't? Some see view 22 weeks as too much ,as do some European countries.. ??
If those states are so strongly opposed they could vote out those politicians who are against abortion ..
It's of Interest up to 2018 it was illegal in Eire.
France its up to 12 weeks as is most Europe
UK is 24 weeks .
Japan is illegal with some allowance..
This is intresting, list seems USA is not alone
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ion-is-illegal
Yeah but you are on record saying the teenagers abused by Epstein for the entertainment of Prince Andrew and others knew what they were getting into. Given the Governor of Florida in the nearest state is shutting Abortion doors if girls like the one who successfully sued a member of our Royal Family what would you say was her best next step if she got impregnated by some enriched scumbag on Paedo Island?
If the UK gave this power to the regions and the WAG decided to make it a criminal offence to have an abortion, would you support that?
Christians are idiots
Women who have been raped , have been told that their child is going to be born with awful , life changing conditions will now have to carry these children
There was an idiot Christian, wearing a cross outside a rally saying ......this is not about religion .....er you what ? .......its about women's rights .....OK feck off now please ......you don't see all the work pro lifers do behind the scenes for women ......like threatening them outside abortion clinics ?
Fundamental pro life Christians......please go and stand in the middle of the road , I will drive the bus
Join hands and pray , you are going to need it
what a strange thing to sayif we changed christian to another religion or maybe a race, you would be in melt down at the offence that might cause , yet you feel its ok to say it about christians, who must have many millions amongst them who do decent things every day, for example, many church groups run " food drops for the homeless " set up a few tables in a multi-storey car park and dish out warm soup and a bread roll, warm clothes etc etc
So going back to my point earlier in the thread. All those on here that are pro abortion. Would you also like to see Euthanasia become legal in the UK ?
In the circumstances you described in your earlier post - yes.
There have to be safeguards - but the Swiss law seems to me to combine protection from exploitation with dignity and the ability of a person in pain with a terminal illness to make their own decision to end it.
Agree with that.
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