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Thread: George Carlin religion

  1. #126

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    So you believe that God created the earth for humankind but you're not happy about sharing the bit you happened to be born in with people of a different colour to you? What do you think God's take on that attitude would be then?
    I was wondering about that 🤔

  2. #127

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    A recent study finds that people who regularly attend religious services live approximately four years longer than average. Researchers built the study from previous data suggesting that social interaction, volunteer work, and healthy habits can lead to a longer life

    A recent survey ......showed that if a load of Christians prayed en masse for someone in hospital it made absolutely no difference at all

    People all over the world take part in socialising , healthy habits etc without the need to go to a church

    You daft sod
    You ****ed up the quote mechanism, i hate that.

    I think it's important that the actual subject of prayer must also pray.

    Anyway link me to your source of information SLUDGE

  3. #128

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You ****ed up the quote mechanism, i hate that.

    I think it's important that the actual subject of prayer must also pray.

    Anyway link me to your source of information SLUDGE
    Didn't Hitler believe in God ?

    The sources of information you have given are American .....they are all fecking religious idiots so you can forget that , you may as well send a survey around a church

    Nobel prize winners .....bright people ?

    Do you think they are all in church every Sunday?

  4. #129

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    But the super natural is there, whether we like it or not. However our existence is explained, the truth will be absolutely mind blowing and defy current understanding. If humanism doesn't touch on this then it doesn't offer a full alternative.
    What does humanism say about inherently bad people?
    That could also be said about Quantum Physics and could, mathematically, just be a series of meaningless, random, quantum events. That doesn't mean we don't feel, laugh, cry, hurt etc. but there may be no meaning whatsoever. I often wonder if the dinosaurs contemplated the same things in their much lengthier (sorry for the grammar) time on earth. I think humans are a tad precious. We're extremely likely to become extinct. I don't think any conscious entity is going to prevent that.

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    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    But the super natural is there, whether we like it or not. However our existence is explained, the truth will be absolutely mind blowing and defy current understanding. If humanism doesn't touch on this then it doesn't offer a full alternative.
    What does humanism say about inherently bad people?
    No it's not, whether you like it or not.

    Humanism doesn't have to compete with organised (and man-made) religions. Why should it?

    It doesn't have to compete with faith (to acknowledge Truthpaste's distinctions, and hatred of religion) or go toe-to-toe with the certainties of cult members.

    Human beings can give their own meaning to their lives, create their own values and purposes, and face death without terror. We no longer live in the fear and ignorance of past centuries. We should have grown up!

  6. #131

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    But the super natural is there, whether we like it or not. However our existence is explained, the truth will be absolutely mind blowing and defy current understanding. If humanism doesn't touch on this then it doesn't offer a full alternative.
    What does humanism say about inherently bad people?
    I think Humanists would simply believe our existence is mind blowing and defies our current understanding. However there’s no need to insert comforting but implausible answers because of that.

    I think Humanists would also believe people have the capacity to be both good and bad. But a better life is built on positive attributes such as learning, reason, compassion, integrity, kindness etc.

  7. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I was wondering about that ��
    I should warn you, he does not take kindly to the question

  8. #133

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    What I have learnt from this thread is that there’s a particular person with multiple accounts.

  9. #134

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    Oh **** off you sniping midwit. You offer literally nothing. I'd hate to be you.
    That's not very Christian of you.

  10. #135

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I should warn you, he does not take kindly to the question
    Ignores it completely in fact, typical religious person response.

  11. #136

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    No it's not, whether you like it or not.

    Humanism doesn't have to compete with organised (and man-made) religions. Why should it?

    It doesn't have to compete with faith (to acknowledge Truthpaste's distinctions, and hatred of religion) or go toe-to-toe with the certainties of cult members.

    Human beings can give their own meaning to their lives, create their own values and purposes, and face death without terror. We no longer live in the fear and ignorance of past centuries. We should have grown up!
    Humanism does have to compete with religion, we need the truth Jon.

    The super natural is there. Whatever the truth of our existence is. It's super natural and beyond your capabilities clearly.

    Dismissing religion as "man made" is about as fatuous as it gets. Who do you think made man?

    No atheist can face death without terror, you are deluding yourself. Death for an atheist is a terrible prospect, it hangs over their subconcious for life.

    You don't half talk bollocks with a condescending air Jon. Just like you claiming ancient Brits were dark skinned. There is no evidence for this, which is why cheddar man was debunked as left wing rubbish, yet you still insist on it being true.

  12. #137

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    The super natural is there. Whatever the truth of our existence is. It's super natural and beyond your capabilities clearly.

    Dismissing religion as "man made" is about as fatuous as it gets. Who do you think made man?

    No atheist can face death without terror, you are deluding yourself. Death for an atheist is a terrible prospect, it hangs over their subconcious for life.

    You don't half talk bollocks with a condescending air Jon. Just like you claiming ancient Brits were dark skinned. There is no evidence for this, which is why cheddar man was debunked as left wing rubbish, yet you still insist on it being true.
    An atheist doesn’t die terrorised about the afterlife though? They’re terrorised that it’s the end

  13. #138

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    That could also be said about Quantum Physics and could, mathematically, just be a series of meaningless, random, quantum events. That doesn't mean we don't feel, laugh, cry, hurt etc. but there may be no meaning whatsoever. I often wonder if the dinosaurs contemplated the same things in their much lengthier (sorry for the grammar) time on earth. I think humans are a tad precious. We're extremely likely to become extinct. I don't think any conscious entity is going to prevent that.
    My guess is that you would struggle to find a group of atheist quantum physicists.

  14. #139

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I was wondering about that 🤔
    Mass immigration and globalism represent chaos and the death of age old cultures and peoples. If the devil is chaos then God is order. I always prefer order to chaos.

  15. #140

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    How do you know what happens to an atheist when he dies? Please tell me your experiences. I'd love to know

  16. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    I think Humanists would simply believe our existence is mind blowing and defies our current understanding. However there’s no need to insert comforting but implausible answers because of that.

    I think Humanists would also believe people have the capacity to be both good and bad. But a better life is built on positive attributes such as learning, reason, compassion, integrity, kindness etc.
    Do you believe our existence is "mind blowing and defies our current understanding" if so, would you accept we have a God i.e. our creator?

  17. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post

    Didn't Hitler believe in God ?

    The sources of information you have given are American .....they are all fecking religious idiots so you can forget that , you may as well send a survey around a church

    Nobel prize winners .....bright people ?

    Do you think they are all in church every Sunday?
    You're a very bad advert for Atheism.

  18. #143

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    Do you believe our existence is "mind blowing and defies our current understanding" if so, would you accept we have a God i.e. our creator?
    In a word no, it is all made up.

  19. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    In a word no, it is all made up.
    So, in your considered opinion how did we get here?

  20. #145

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    How do you know what happens to an atheist when he dies? Please tell me your experiences. I'd love to know
    I know as much about it as you do

  21. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    I know as much about it as you do
    So, you're Agnostic and not an Atheist then?

  22. #147

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    So, you're Agnostic and not an Atheist then?
    Agnostic atheist

  23. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    Agnostic atheist
    Haha pick one fruitcake. But remember God is watching...

  24. #149

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    So, in your considered opinion how did we get here?
    do you know,what you believe is a load of crap.

  25. #150

    Re: George Carlin religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
    My guess is that you would struggle to find a group of atheist quantum physicists.
    Well, we'll never know until we open the box

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