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    Re: Chaos in Government

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Someone literally said we couldn’t have predicted what would have happened with a different government. But we can 100% say that if Labour had got in that year we wouldn’t have financially knee capped the country.
    Well you shouldn't have replied with Corbyn they had no chance, they lost by a landslide because the Country wanted Brexit, and because no one would trust him to run a bath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Well you shouldn't have replied with Corbyn they had no chance, they lost by a landslide because the Country wanted Brexit, and because no one would trust him to run a bath.
    Do you think I’m the Labour Party?

    The country didn’t want brexit, in fact they’d hardly thought about it until 2016. But the billionaires wanted it because they knew they could make a fortune off it and used their money to campaign to make the unfortunate and the stupid think it would benefit them.

    Unfortunately it benefits no one except the super rich and now we are seeing all of then evidence in real time. The stupid were calling it project fear before remember

  3. #328

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Have you worked for many years under a Labour Government not New Labour ?

    Thats the exception rather than the rule, the majority of people vote for what would suit them and their Family best, that changes as you have older children and Grandchildren of course.
    Anyone who had would be talking about the 1970s and that's hardly a reasonable comparison.

    You can't say so-and-so was bad 40+ years ago therefore they shouldn't have another chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Well you shouldn't have replied with Corbyn they had no chance, they lost by a landslide because the Country wanted Brexit, and because no one would trust him to run a bath.
    Lucky we trusted Cameron who shows he can run a country to ****ing up it’s economy like no one else just to stop ukip stealing a couple of Tory seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Then why the **** are we saddled with a Tory government that does **** all for the majority of the country?
    It's been a tough five years, Brexit debates and Labour trying to prevent it, Covid, War in Ukraine and fuel, Gas and supply shortages.

    You can't expect to shut the Country down for two years and then a few months later everything to be fine again.

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    So his resignation speech was effectively "not my fault"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Do you think I’m the Labour Party?

    The country didn’t want brexit, in fact they’d hardly thought about it until 2016. But the billionaires wanted it because they knew they could make a fortune off it and used their money to campaign to make the unfortunate and the stupid think it would benefit them.

    Unfortunately it benefits no one except the super rich and now we are seeing all of then evidence in real time. The stupid were calling it project fear before remember
    Slightly more wanted it than didn't want it, thats how it works?

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    The person who wanted to tackle covid via herd immunity had been trampled by the herd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    It's been a tough five years, Brexit debates and Labour trying to prevent it, Covid, War in Ukraine and fuel, Gas and supply shortages.

    You can't expect to shut the Country down for two years and then a few months later everything to be fine again.
    I know it was the same in a lot of countries but for some reason our economy is suffering much worse to the tune of a billion pounds a year. A tough couple of years have nothing to do with it.

    If you can’t see that you’re the one supporting the tories like a football team because if you won’t criticise them or stop defending them now you literally never will.

    The ****ed up the covid response
    They took the piss during covid
    They ****ed up the countries economy to save a few ukip seats
    They take bribes from the Russians

    But at least they didn’t say anything vaguely anti semitic though

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Slightly more wanted it than didn't want it, thats how it works?
    No they didn’t, it worked out at about 33% of the country at the most. And as you talk about people voting for what benefits them and their family yet 95% of those who voted have been tricked into voting for something that will make them poorer with fewer opportunities based on a campaign propped up by billionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Lucky we trusted Cameron who shows he can run a country to ****ing up it’s economy like no one else just to stop ukip stealing a couple of Tory seats.
    Good idea maybe Kier could start a new manifesto to bring back the EU ?

    Stick that likeable character Emily Thornbry in charge, with Long-Baily as her deputy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    No they didn’t, it worked out at about 33% of the country at the most. And as you talk about people voting for what benefits them and their family yet 95% of those who voted have been tricked into voting for something that will make them poorer with fewer opportunities based on a campaign propped up by billionaires.
    Yes slightly more that voted wanted it thats how it works?

    What do you do at the game shout at the ref at the end it's not fair we had more shots?

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    It’s too late now, we had extra benefits and voting powers. Crawling back now we’d be in a much worse position still. We were up there with Germany and France having all the benefits and being able to do basically as we pleased but no we needed “sovereignty” apparently.

    The only thing that would ever make it a good decision now would be if the EU completely collapses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Yes slightly more that voted wanted it thats how it works?

    What do you do at the game shout at the ref at the end it's not fair we had more shots?
    You’re missing the point, probably on purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    I know it was the same in a lot of countries but for some reason our economy is suffering much worse to the tune of a billion pounds a year. A tough couple of years have nothing to do with it.

    If you can’t see that you’re the one supporting the tories like a football team because if you won’t criticise them or stop defending them now you literally never will.

    The ****ed up the covid response
    They took the piss during covid
    They ****ed up the countries economy to save a few ukip seats
    They take bribes from the Russians

    But at least they didn’t say anything vaguely anti semitic though
    Calm down I'm stating Brexit was done and Corbyn couldn't have got into power, and its been a tough few years

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    Re: Chaos in Government

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    You’re missing the point, probably on purpose.
    Boris got Brexit done, it's over

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    We are talking about brexit mate

    Isn’t that note or something similar left by a government when they depart? Or are we still blaming Labour for a global recession while giving the tories a pass for this one?
    oh sorry , of course you can't blame Labour for a global recession or the Tories due to the world global and unlike the last recession this one is so unpredictable its nature ,unless someone has a glass ball ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    It’s too late now, we had extra benefits and voting powers. Crawling back now we’d be in a much worse position still. We were up there with Germany and France having all the benefits and being able to do basically as we pleased but no we needed “sovereignty” apparently.

    The only thing that would ever make it a good decision now would be if the EU completely collapses.
    It would have worked a lot better if Labour hadn't tried to stop it and given information to the EU to help their negotiation, we all got so fed up of it thats how Boris got in so easily and they had to rush a deal though.

    All water under the bridge, we have to forget about it and make the most of the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    It would have worked a lot better if Labour hadn't tried to stop it and given information to the EU to help their negotiation, we all got so fed up of it thats how Boris got in so easily and they had to rush a deal though.

    All water under the bridge, we have to forget about it and make the most of the future.
    **** me you know you’re a died in the wool Tory when you blame how shit brexit is ok Labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    oh sorry , of course you can't blame Labour for a global recession or the Tories due to the world global and unlike the last recession this one is so unpredictable its nature ,unless someone has a glass ball ?
    Can we blame them for your lack of articulation in this post? No idea what you’re saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Well you shouldn't have replied with Corbyn they had no chance, they lost by a landslide because the Country wanted Brexit, and because no one would trust him to run a bath.
    Well those who trusted Johnson at all let alone to run a bath have been made to look as right mugs.

    What a state our country is in.

  22. #347

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Boris got Brexit done, it's over
    It is over but the outcomes are here to stay.

    Irrelevant nation with a ****ed economy and many of our opportunities removed. At least the billionaires can launder their money here though. Well done on getting taken in by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Boris got Brexit done, it's over
    Of course he didn't but Labour could have reluctantly backed Mays half way deal or Corbyn could have agreed to sitting on the same stage as the Remainers ??

    MP's including Sir Kier and his band trying to overturn a democratic vote however smelly the result was , which did not go down well with electorate , all of which fed and let the big dog into the gate , everyone is has responsibility to all these decisions ,in my vies sometimes Labour's ideology gets in the way of reason , there is a saying one step back two steps forward pity Jeremy didn't take that policy up , instead of trying to turn Labour into a narrow viewed politic party ..

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    All the fools who voted for brexit now blaming it on Labour you couldn’t make it up

    Any chance of a genuine benefit of brexit yet?

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    Re: Chaos in Government

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    **** me you know you’re a died in the wool Tory when you blame how shit brexit is ok Labour.
    the only thing died is Corbyns and Boris career.

    No not dyed in the wool tory, but Labour and the liberals or whatever they are, were responsible for trying to stop it and took attention away from running the Country to trying to battle for Brexit.

    They were trying to stop parliament every week?

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