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The only Oscars in that sad lot was Oscar Pistorius!Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Latest YouGov poll for the Times ranking the 11 declared Tory leadership cnadidates. Top 3:
3. Rishi Sunak (13%)
2. Don't know (28%)
1. None of the above (30%)
The Tory leadership candidates want credit for telling Boris Johnson to go. But here's what they recently said about him. pic.twitter.com/waYWUYagEm
— Led By Donkeys (@ByDonkeys) July 11, 2022
You do love your twitter Bob
Absolutely not!!!
So you reckon all Labour,Lib Dems et al are all noble beings who do not do the job for money power and status????
Power corrupts , we have seen that from all sides of the politcial void .. We get to hear the Tories noise as they are in power and under much more scrutiny ..
Folks post anti Tory stuff but not so the Labour issues ..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...nt-allegations
A dozen senior Labour women have called on the party to end its use of confidentiality agreements to “cover up” allegations of sexual harassment, saying the treatment of two former staffers was appalling.
Laura Murray, Labour’s ex-head of complaints, and Georgie Robertson, who worked in the party’s press office, said they refused to sign the agreements after reporting an official for “inappropriate” and “possessive” behaviour.
Their lawyer argued the use of the contract violated Labour’s own policy on non-disclosure agreements (NDAs).
After the BBC revealed Murray and Robertson’s allegations, Labour was urged to apologise to them and stop offering confidentiality agreements to those who made accusations of sexual harassment.
A lot of problems exists as well at the local council end of the politcial world including Labour , we only here about the Tories as there in power and under the spot light
Just like they did in the nineties, the Tories have become bloated and corrupt after a long period in power (although I don’t remember the nineties lot being as bad as these). All political parties have corrupt people in their ranks, but don’t try and make out they’re all as bad as each other.
A couple of months ago, the Daily Mail ran front page stories for thirteen consecutive days I believe it was about the Labour Party leader concerning an alleged breaking of lock down rules that the police had looked into months earlier and decided to take no action on. Now, after another investigation, the police have confirmed there is no case to answer.
A fortnight or so ago, a story broke about how the lover, now wife, of the then Foreign Secretary, now Prime Minister was caught giving him a blow job by an MP who worked for him at the Foreign Office. Now, I don’t know if that is true or not and I’m sure Johnson wasn’t the first prominent politician to be caught in such a position down the years, but what I want to point out is that this alleged aincident has been all but forgotten now.
I’d say there are three reasons for that, first it was all but ignored by the Tory press, second, it has beenovertaken by events to a large degree and, third, it was just the latest in a long line of scandals, embarrassments, law breaking and sheer ineptitude that has been occurring on what seems almost a weekly basis ever a period of more than two years.
Just imagine if that blow job story had been about a Labour politician, how do believe the Daily Mail would have reacted given how they made a mountain out of a mole hill over Beergate?
There has not been a Government and/or Prime Minister as shoddy and inept as this one in my lifetime and it’s an insult to previous ones, both Conservative and Labour, to make out that this lot represent business as usual.
And yet, despairingly, there will still be a sizeable tranche of people taken in by these charlatans. I'm just hoping it's not a majority next time.
Definitely the vast majority of Labour and probably more of the Lib Dems than the Tory shite. Naturally I wouldn't expect you to concur. It's an old Tory trick to try to tar everyone with the same brush when they are caught with their pants down. That disingenuous line of attack will do no good for any of us; all it will do is continue to undermine confidence in democratic politics.
The only way I can conclude you have this view is that you are ignorant, probably because you only follow the media you agree with, so your views are never challenged.
It's natural the focus is on the party of government, and it's true, the Tories are on a bad run of indescretions, but they absolutely apply to all parties, you just aren't paying attention.
As the expenses scandal shows all parties are in the 'Whats's in it for me' party when push comes to shove.
I am not 'tarring everyone with the same brush' as you call it, there are many decent politicians on all sides, just as there .
many charlatans on all sides. How on earth does it undermine confidence in democratic politics to says so?
Shut the f up you boring t**t
I'm anything but boring Dorcus.
Smug and boring, a most repulsive combination.
Go see a doctor and try spending your days doing something more productive than spreading hatred on the internet
Sorry Elwood, I can't agree, your generality condemns the political institutions. Many people would like nothing better than wash their hands of politicians altogether and wish a plague on all their houses. I think it irresponsible to give succour to that view. Just my opinion Elwood, yours is entirely different to mine and I respect that. At least it's refreshing to have a good natured discourse with you absent of petty ad hominem digs.
MY intention wasn't to condemn all political institutions though Dorcus. Just those whichever party they are
who fall below the standards we are entitled to from our politicians either because they do something illegal or they allow the money power and status to corrupt
My point was that all parties have people who are guilty of this. Going back to the expenses scandal it is noticeable that 5 Labour MP's were imprisoned but no tories although one tory Lord was sent to jail. Having said that it was always a wonder to me that so many on all sides avoided serious punishment.
Absolutely. Good and bad in all.
Go and f*** yourself you insane buffoon.
No I won't. I will point out your ignorance instead, because you are probably the kind of person who would cover up all kinds of incidents inside a political party because it would be damaging to allow justice to be done.
Your belief that one party is less likely to have scandals, harbour criminals, abusers or scoundrels is exactly the kind of belief that people who do such things rely upon to get away with it.
I would say you should be ashamed of yourself, but that would require you to take stock of someone else's opinion, which you are demonstrably incapable of doing.
I would say that you are just a conceited jerk who has an overblown opinion of his own self worth.
You are showing your own ignorance now because you are entrenched in your own cosy little world since being the spoilt brat in a wealthy family that indulged your misplaced sense of superiority since an early age. You just feel people like you should get your just desserts in life and the Devil can take the hindmost.
You know nothing about me if you did you would understand I cannot tolerate prejudice or iniquity of any kind. You make yourself sound like a raving fool.
I do not believe in prosperity for the few, small state, aspiration, low taxes, competition, racism etc etc. That is me in a nutshell and that's why I despise the Tories and their shameful philosophy. I'm entitled to that and I do not need a conceited nobody like you to tell me otherwise.
I deliberately do not message you because I can't stomach your bilge. You chose to address me today. I'd prefer you don't because I don't like you.
Anyway I won't be continuing in this infantile slanging match with you because I have work to do even though it always appears you don't. Andrea Jenkins to you!
You seriously do need help Dorcus. You shouldn't be hate filled like that and make such gross assumptions on people. Sort yourself out and stop ruining sensible discussions. Clearly you are incapable of realising that people who support 'your side' are also liable to be abusers, liars, cheats, racists and all the rest. Here's some reading for you (Pointless I know)
Your assumptions on me personally are preposterous. Get a hold of yourself, stop lying and stop endlessly spreading mistruths and defending some total myth that certain parties are goodies and others baddies.
There are good and bad in all parties, and that you fail to see that is exactly the kind of opinion that someone who has been radicalised online would think.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tory-sleaze-vn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...cted_of_crimes
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/polit...-by-the-police
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...k-b206630.html
https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...rved-jail-time
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8231296.html
https://www.channel4.com/news/out-of...up-behind-bars
https://twtext.com/article/1368131589830565891
Every year it's hotter, every year wealth inequality increases, every year poverty increases, every year it's harder to live a good life.
You defend the current system with every breath. You've never had an original thought purely repeating lines given to you by the billionaire class through their media.
How can you not see that anything other than far right is now denounced as extreme. Tories have gone ****ing insane, Labour have lurched right massively. Anything else is derided in the capitalist media.
It's exhausting, if you have young people in your family they will utterly despise you as they get older.
Why is it the more educated you are the less likely you are to vote brexit or tories? (https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...neral-election)
You've had everything you want for the past 12 years and look at the state of the UK. You tell Dorcus he needs help and he's been radicalised? I say anyone who isn't furious at how working/young people being robbed and how mental this clown island is are the ones who've been radicalised. To any developed country not run by Murdoch media we look absolutley mental.
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