Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

[LeningradCowboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62020427

Speed limits in built-up areas look set to be reduced from 30mph to 20mph in Wales from next year - a UK first that is controversial among some drivers.

[The Bloop]

Whilst many in north Cardiff have been keeping to the new limit, plenty haven't. I look forward to hearing about bus and taxi drivers being fined for speeding in bus lanes, as many seem oblivious to the new 20 limit.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Whilst many in north Cardiff have been keeping to the new limit, plenty haven't. I look forward to hearing about bus and taxi drivers being fined for speeding in bus lanes, as many seem oblivious to the new 20 limit.

It will cause a problem for buses, certainly. A 5 mile journey at 20mph will take 5 minutes longer than a 5 mile journey at 30mph. Buses tend to run on tight schedules for profitability and more delays will mean either less services or a need for more buses and drivers, with costs going up as a result.

[Rjk]

It will cause a problem for buses, certainly. A 5 mile journey at 20mph will take 5 minutes longer than a 5 mile journey at 30mph. Buses tend to run on tight schedules for profitability and more delays will mean either less services or a need for more buses and drivers, with costs going up as a result.

which bus routes are driving for 5 miles through 20mph roads?

[JamesWales]

which bus routes are driving for 5 miles through 20mph roads?

#23 through Rhiwbina and Whitchurch?

[Rjk]

#23 through Rhiwbina and Whitchurch?

yes probably that one

[BLUETIT]

which bus routes are driving for 5 miles through 20mph roads?

17, 18, 21, 27, 28, 28b the list is endless

[HiVis]

which bus routes are driving for 5 miles through 20mph roads?

all of them will be soon enough

[Dave St]

it's pathetic, it will soon be quicker to use a bike or run. Work journeys are killing me being stuck in a queue of 20mph nobbers

[neilw65]

it's pathetic, it will soon be quicker to use a bike or run. Work journeys are killing me being stuck in a queue of 20mph nobbers

Isn't that the aim, or one of them?

[Dave St]

Isn't that the aim, or one of them?

Of course. Still painful

[goats]

Of course. Still painful

All the serious accidents are not on the roads that are being reduced to 20, they are slow enough already…..they haven’t got the man power to enforce it everywhere anyway but loads of people will get done and end losing points and licences. There’s already a backlog to re sit a test.

[Citizen's Nephew]

All the serious accidents are not on the roads that are being reduced to 20, they are slow enough already…..they haven’t got the man power to enforce it everywhere anyway but loads of people will get done and end losing points and licences. There’s already a backlog to re sit a test.

They won't need the manpower to enforce it. It'll be programmed into your electric vehicle.

[BLUETIT]

As I said in the other thread about this, 2 weeks ago, I am fed up of being undertaken by cyclists doing more than 20mph

[Tuerto]

As I said in the other thread about this, 2 weeks ago, I am fed up of being undertaken by cyclists doing more than 20mph

Why do you give a shit?

[Cyclops]

If a 20 mph limit is not enforced (and where I drive/cycle/walk in North Cardiff it clearly isn't), what is the point of having it?

[Wales-Bales]

If a 20 mph limit is not enforced (and where I drive/cycle/walk in North Cardiff it clearly isn't), what is the point of having it?

ESG score.

[Cyclops]

ESG score.

As you know I am a simple soul, and presume this is a new three-piece supergroup a la ELP.
Would have thought it was more to do with Social, Environmental and Governance (SEG).
Doesn't anyone care about the total failure of enforcement - apart from the concerned citizen who has knocked up an extremely convincing DIY mock-up of a yellow speed camera in a front garden of Pendywallt Road - the location of which is easily identified by multiple skid marks on the road just past said garden.

[Wales-Bales]

As you know I am a simple soul, and presume this is a new three-piece supergroup a la ELP.
Would have thought it was more to do with Social, Environmental and Governance (SEG).
Doesn't anyone care about the total failure of enforcement - apart from the concerned citizen who has knocked up an extremely convincing DIY mock-up of a yellow speed camera in a front garden of Pendywallt Road - the location of which is easily identified by multiple skid marks on the road just past said garden.

You got the right words in the wrong order

[Cyclops]

You got the right words in the wrong order

Life the of that's my story

[JamesWales]

It's utterly ridiculous.

[dandywarhol]

All for it.Get more speed cams as well.There;s some right nutters on the road.Save fuel as well save the planet.More speed bumps as well.

[Citizen's Nephew]

All for it.Get more speed cams as well.There;s some right nutters on the road.Save fuel as well save the planet.More speed bumps as well.

Amen brother!

[+ the native hipster]

All for it.Get more speed cams as well.There;s some right nutters on the road.Save fuel as well save the planet.More speed bumps as well.

most modern cars are designed to be most fuel efficient at around 50 to 60.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

All for it.Get more speed cams as well.There;s some right nutters on the road.Save fuel as well save the planet.More speed bumps as well.

Driving at 20mph isn't any more fuel efficient than driving at 30mph. Plus a one mile trip will take 50% longer at 20mph, so exhaust fumes for 50% more, and in theory 50% more vehicles travelling through towns and cities.