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Jeremy clarkson tweeted that climate change was real 2 days ago. He isn’t at all sceptical about it, he was just having a laugh at the over reaction of people on Twitter to the weather.Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/1549015974556336128?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
I’ve spent my life working in extreme heat and we survived by having a beer under a tree. Climate change is real. Drink more beer.
People who are climate change deniers and brexit voters are a pretty big cross section on a Venn diagram in fairness. Not mocking them but it’s just based on where they get their news.
Same reason those who voted remain are more likely to believe in climate change.
Different media outlets will report the facts that suit them and their readership.
Big part you're missing there is one side listens to science and can see through the lies of our billionaire owned media, the other does not/cannot. The side who listens to science are more educated as well.
Weird correlation that.
That’s nonsense there is no correlation between Brexit and climate change, but there is between, bitcoin loving, antivax, Covid didn't exist, climate change is just for governments to tell us what to do, the great reset, and it's to do with where they get their news, and they aren't intelligent just anti-establishment.
Quite a few prominent brexiteers have been climate change sceptics
Yeah some forms of media are definitely more honest in how they present things. And some definitely have agendas.
In this thread it seems a good correlation in fairness.
https://towardsdatascience.com/clima...t-8247a243d815
there appears to be a significant correlation
2019?
Who's that idiot, a load of mumbo jumbo of made up nonsense
righto2019?
Who's that idiot, a load of mumbo jumbo of made up nonsense
You know it's nonsense, some loon from his bedroom look at his other few posts all made up craprighto
I don’t think anyone is saying everyone who voted for brexit is a denier but it’s clear there’s a decent cross over.2019?
Who's that idiot, a load of mumbo jumbo of made up nonsense
This is what Sludge thinks about when he reads the word 'denier':
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Yes, it's daft to suggest there is no link - inevitably patterns emerge when you split the country down the middle. Leave voters were more or less likely to be a great many things. Leaving aside the whole 'correlation and causation' thing, it's probably fair to say climate sceptics were more likely to vote Brexit. That's a reasonable thing to say. Insinuating all climate deniers voted Leave, or all Leave voters are climate deniers is of course not reasonable, and nor is it anywhere near correct. 25% of Green voters at the 2015 GE voted leave, so that's nearly 300,000 green brexit voters right there alone.
It's also worth looking into why. "The environment" generally is perceived, rightly or wrongly, as more of an issue for wealthier people, and wealthier people were far more likely to vote Remain than leave. Likewise, poorer people perhaps have more immediate concerns than the environment, and they were far more likely to vote leave so we are probably looking at an income thing more than anything.
What is more interesting is what leaving the EU can do for the environment. There's huge opportunities in that respect irrespective of how anyone voted 6 years ago.
Some interesting stuff below:
https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/0...voted-and-why/
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/h...-and-who-didnt
I don't think the words "Boris Johnson" and "decision making" make any sense in the same sentence.
From the other board, this will be the non-covid believers, anti vax, bitcoin loving, internet great reset followers view for the next few years now that Brexit and Covid is finished, it's the new argument to rant on about.
Dessy1927
I'd say he's on to something. Radio 1 propaganda being pushed this morning. Extreme weather expected every 3 years, time to act blah blah blah. Such a bad crisis the G7 summit keeps having meetings, flying in on their private jets with a diabolical carbon footprint.
Classic case of do as I say not as I do. It's just another form of taxation creeping in that will slowly force us off the roads whilst the rich jet around tax free.
The rhetoric is already ramping up.
20mph zones
Mega fuel inflation ( which started before Ukraine as I put my rates up in Jan to counter the rising costs )
Phasing out petrol and diesel motors by 2030
The electric car push ( look at the carbon footprint creating them )
Yet again they are coming after the working man whilst the elite can do as they please.
Alot of modern issues regarding carbon are to do with unhealthy soil that usually retains the carbon but is being dried out through toxic modern fertiliser treatments but instead of going after the corporations yet again it s over to us with more taxation.
He might be off tangent with lasers etc but he's definitely onto something. The propaganda between now and 2030 will only get worse. As will the way they enforce it on the working man.
Dessy1927
FFS I'm so tired of the right doing this, you make up things you think the left are for and then argue against that instead of our actual arguements. JamesWales is notorious for doing this.
Nobody on the left wants to tax the working man more, they/we want to go after the billionaire class who are milking us for every single penny while destroying the planet. Warning of climate catastrophe is not 'PrOpOgAnDa' it's scientific fact. If you're backing up David Cotterill there are no words.
I've said a few times now but older generations are seemingly hell bent on making things worse for the generations after them, you will be remembered as the most selfish ignorant generation in history and I can't wait until your voting block whithers so we can actually improve society.
People who believed in witches/flat earth etc in the past at least had the excuse that they don't have access to scientific information, what's your excuse?
No I don't, in fact I would argue the opposite. I criticise it when you say inflammatory or generalised or insulting things or when I think something is just not correct.
I actually think I'm pretty good at avoiding strawman arguments personally, and my mum told me so too.
Have you gone mad in the heat????
Where have I said anything about the left???
Read it again and wake up!
PS I think it's nonsense and David Cotterill is talking bolux, it's someone elses view?
"Listens to science" lol you're flattered by authority figures who imply that adherence to their current view is enlightened. The "science" industry has been subverted by big money and cancel culture.
Which billionaires own the BBC? (the biggest, most influential media outlet in Britain)
Go on, which billionaires own the BBC?
What in all that is holy is the science industry
What do you mean the science industry?
I think you missed the point AGAIN. Lol
Stop asking silly questions hatchling
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