Reply With QuoteNo you havntOriginally Posted by Alan Lung
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kemi, kemi ,our next leader , she won't call your mum a chest feeder
No you havnt
She's a cruiserweight
Miserable git.
What year were you born in? Would be interesting to compare the world you were born into to the one you claim is so terrible now.
Also. Assuming you live in Wales, it's all good...as the people you bemoan have no say over education, healthcare, transport and other devolved topics anyway.. so less moaning perhaps!?
I didn't watch tonights debate but All the Tory candidates are bad, Starmer is worse.
Penny Muduant is a shit lib and has zero intellect. The perfect puppet for the Rothschilda and will probably win.
This thread is unbelievable really as its probably mainly working / middle class people thinking they have a say. All probably intelligent people thinking what they think counts. Sorry but in my humble opinion of which I know many of you don't think counts but the game was lost years ago and whether blue or red they are taking the piss and making the most from us until someone clocks it which will be a long time
I voted for Nandy. Starmer wasn't on my list. I think I'm right in saying that he's reneged on all of his election promises. The last straw for me was him cosying up to the Prince Of Darkness Baron Mandelson. I resigned my membership and wrote to Starmer. I never got a reply. I did get a really good reply and support from the Bute Labour (my local branch at the time). It wasn't enough. If I could join Welsh Labour as a separate party that might be an option but Starmer's Labour Party is not for me. I've dabbled with the Greens but I'm done with party politics and prefer direct action and activism these days.
Amen brother.
John Smith was OK
Says the guy moaning his trains going to be cancelled. Boo-hoo.
With what happened with Corbyn, surely it's time to get rid of Starmer, he seems almost as unpopular. (Although I don't really understand why) An election could be looming. Doesn't Angela Rayner seem more electable? Or is she too northern and too socialist? There have always been a lot of people in Britain so deluded they think they have to have to aspirationally vote Tory. We don't do leadership change over here. There are no official opposition leaders. But if Biden doesn't announce he won't run for re-election in 2026 before October, the Democrats and possibly this country are ****ed. Republicans will seize control of maybe both houses. And nothing will get done. Apart from Supreme Court decisions. And that will not go well. I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but this could all have been so easily avoided. The lines that control law and democracy are beyond fine.
Someone starts a thread about a robot who wants to become Prime Minister and people who identify themselves as left of centre politically turn it into yet another Starmer/Labour bashing session. Lord knows, Labour/Starmer annoy me at times, but isn't the issue here that, for the third time in six years, the population of the UK are having a Prime Minister foisted upon them by an electorate of around 350 in the House of Commons and some 200,000 Conservative party members, who we're told are mostly old, white men living in the shires?
I won't be watching any of the leadership debates because it's not a good thing to try to get to sleep while feeling depressed, but, from what I can gather, Tugenhadt, who knows he's not got much longer in this race, was pretty honest in his opinions, so went down best with the huge majority of us who have no say in the process, Sunak sounded vaguely realistic about the situation the country finds itself in, Badinoch, as is her wont, blathered on about culture wars stuff, so would have impressed some, Mordaunt was a bit of a damp squid and Truss failed miserably in her bid to come over as a modern day Margaret Thatcher.
I've also read, albeit on Twitter, that the real winner on the night was Keir Starmer, I'm not sure about that, but I would say that the often voiced theory that Johnson's cabinet was a collection of political pygmies and the rush among the candidates, even those not in the Cabinet, to promise tax cuts rather bears that theory out - all of the realistic candidates to succeed Johnson have weaknesses.
For me, Labour/Starmer should be concentrating more on mapping out what they stand for more than continuously bashing a Government that is clapped out and can only now offer anti woke rhetoric, paranoia about their Brexit being stolen from them, Johnson type boosterism and trying to cash in on public goodwill towards Ukraine after twelve long years in power.
Opposition parties never set out their policies until much nearer to the general election, which may not be until January 2025.
For the #C4LeaderDebate Liz Truss has recreated Margaret Thatcher’s appearance from her 1979 election broadcast down to the last detail pic.twitter.com/pqzJPADQsl
— Andrew Gunn 🇺🇦 (@ASGunn) July 15, 2022
Did anyone notice that Liz Truss was dressed like Margaret Thatcher? Wooden is the best word to describe her performance.
Good post TOBW. This naturally being the bit that will generate the most interest on CCMB.
Lol
The spelling was wholly intentional
Yes, Baloo and Andrew Gunn did.
Agreed.
He is one Labour leader I could have voted for
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I see the Daily Mail (which seems to be supporting Liz Truss) is having a right go at Penny Mordaunt.
Liz Truss has spoken out against this sort of black ops but she seems quite content to let her attack dogs,such as the Daily Mail
(which I believe wants her to win), Lord Frost (who surprise, surprise subsequently announced his support for Liz Truss) Lord Moylan (who I heard a few weeks ago give a ridiculous defence of Boris Johnson. I can't remember what he said now but do recall thinking what a fool Moylan sounded) and Simon Clark one of her senior MP supporters. It certainly seems like a concerted and planned campaign.
I would give more credence to Damien Green, (who is backing Tugendhat) who said what an excellent junior minister she was when she worked for him.
The more the Mail and people like Frost, Moyland and Clark brief against her, the more I want her to at least reach the last two in preference to Liz Truss!!
Well, it's fkd up my holiday with my two young children, so yeah, I am a bit pissed off about it tbh.
Who are you focussing that feeling towards James? The big people who you buy the ticket from, or the little people?Well, it's fkd up my holiday with my two young children, so yeah, I am a bit pissed off about it tbh.
The ones calling the strike, Eric. Strikes me (no pun intended) they have received a reasonable offer. I'm not playing class warfare games. The industry wouldn't exist without support in the last 2 years (paid by us) and now they are striking. I've been on strike before, I am not someone who claims it's an easy job, or that it shouldnt be well paid, which it is - I have a couple of train driver mates. Put it this way, they drive cars I can only dream of owning.
Sorry, I don't support it. Its the last thing the country needs.
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