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    I know there are outside influences involved, but………….

    why are we being hit harder than all comparable countries except the one with sanctions on it?

    Aren’t we supposed to be governed by the party of economic competence?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62299490

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    12 years of austerity + brexit has made our economy much more vulnerable. Anyone who believes the tories are the party of sensible monetry policy must have an IQ of below 90.

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    I thought it was pretty obvious that the western economies are going through a controlled demolition?

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    Re: I know there are outside influences involved, but………….

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I thought it was pretty obvious that the western economies are going through a controlled demolition?
    It is pretty obvious that this particular western economy is suffering the effects of cock-ups not conspiracy.

    From Osborne's Austerity Cult, through Brexit, to whatever incoherent cluster**** is being inflicted by this week's Chancellor (whoever that is) it is a tale of incompetence and self-harm. And based on that shambles of a leadership debate on the BBC last night (not helped by the BBC!) it is going to get worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It is pretty obvious that this particular western economy is suffering the effects of cock-ups not conspiracy.

    From Osborne's Austerity Cult, through Brexit, to whatever incoherent cluster**** is being inflicted by this week's Chancellor (whoever that is) it is a tale of incompetence and self-harm. And based on that shambles of a leadership debate on the BBC last night (not helped by the BBC!) it is going to get worse!
    You're among the top coincidence theorists around here. Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    You're among the top coincidence theorists around here. Congrats!
    Thanks.

    Repeat after me... 'cock up not conspiracy.... cock up not conspiracy.... cockup not conspiracy.... ' and when you get to the 99th one you are allowed to say 'Conspiracy!'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Thanks.

    Repeat after me... 'cock up not conspiracy.... cock up not conspiracy.... cockup not conspiracy.... ' and when you get to the 99th one you are allowed to say 'Conspiracy!'.
    Please can you confirm the introduction of these devices to all schools has nothing whatsoever to do with the rise in myocarditis among formerly healthy children pre-clot shot is another coincidence. Thanks in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It is pretty obvious that this particular western economy is suffering the effects of cock-ups not conspiracy.

    From Osborne's Austerity Cult, through Brexit, to whatever incoherent cluster**** is being inflicted by this week's Chancellor (whoever that is) it is a tale of incompetence and self-harm. And based on that shambles of a leadership debate on the BBC last night (not helped by the BBC!) it is going to get worse!
    They've been working on it a lot longer than you think, and everything appears to be going to plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Thanks.

    Repeat after me... 'cock up not conspiracy.... cock up not conspiracy.... cockup not conspiracy.... ' and when you get to the 99th one you are allowed to say 'Conspiracy!'.
    Osborne appointing a globalist (Carney) as governor of the BOE was no cockup, and he's now the United Nations special envoy for climate action and finance, aka Agenda 30.

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    If anyone on here thinks the world including the Eurozone is not in trouble has an IQ just below a jelly fish.

    Humble apologies to any jelly fish city fans ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    If anyone on here thinks the world including the Eurozone is not in trouble has an IQ just below a jelly fish.

    Humble apologies to any jelly fish city fans ..
    I'd love to live in your world.

    Any time the UK is shown as doing badly (quite often to be honest) you say the rest of the world is doing bad.

    Whenever the UK is not doing as badly as one individual country in one area ' UK #1!!!!!'.

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    Re: I know there are outside influences involved, but………….

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    If anyone on here thinks the world including the Eurozone is not in trouble has an IQ just below a jelly fish.

    Humble apologies to any jelly fish city fans ..
    I haven't seen any contributions on here that deny the world is in trouble. It clearly is in trouble - including the Eurozone and including the UK. There is some disagreement about the causes of this trouble. I hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Please can you confirm the introduction of these devices to all schools has nothing whatsoever to do with the rise in myocarditis among formerly healthy children pre-clot shot is another coincidence. Thanks in advance.
    This has been campaigned for since 2012, the Government have been advising that every school buys a defib since 2013, they've just finally made it law. Congratulations to the bereaved parent who's kept at them for ten years to try and stop other parents going through what they did.

    https://theoliverkingfoundation.co.u...0Defibrillator

    https://www.sadsuk.org.uk/blog/detai...on-people.html




    Embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    I didn't watch last night - but WOW. Satire is not dead.

    I just hope enough people watched that or read unspun accounts of it and understand. However, I guess that a large proportion of viewers (and most Tory members who will vote for the new PM) will take from that the Truss line that random world events combined with 'socialist' Sunak policies (that she voted for) have created massive problems for ordinary people and she will fix them - with Harry Potter economics and Oswald Mosely foreign policies.

    This should be the shortest political suicide campaign in history - but probably won't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It is pretty obvious that this particular western economy is suffering the effects of cock-ups not conspiracy.

    From Osborne's Austerity Cult, through Brexit, to whatever incoherent cluster**** is being inflicted by this week's Chancellor (whoever that is) it is a tale of incompetence and self-harm. And based on that shambles of a leadership debate on the BBC last night (not helped by the BBC!) it is going to get worse!
    I see where you are going Jon. I don't subscribe to the idea that everything is microscopically planned at an international level but I also can't let things slide as 'cock ups' when they are most definitely are deliberate acts intended to sacrifice people for profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    This has been campaigned for since 2012, the Government have been advising that every school buys a defib since 2013, they've just finally made it law. Congratulations to the bereaved parent who's kept at them for ten years to try and stop other parents going through what they did.

    https://theoliverkingfoundation.co.u...0Defibrillator

    https://www.sadsuk.org.uk/blog/detai...on-people.html




    Embarrassing.
    Yet another example of our local conspiracy theorist swallowing whole any old crap that seems to fit his narrative. No doubt this latest in a long series of reverses will not cause him to reflect but to simply fire off a few more. Twas ever thus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Week in week out these plonkers sat behind Boris cheering as he said almost the exact opposite. It's downright disgusting that they think they can get away with it.

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    Re: I know there are outside influences involved, but………….

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I see where you are going Jon. I don't subscribe to the idea that everything is microscopically planned at an international level but I also can't let things slide as 'cock ups' when they are most definitely are deliberate acts intended to sacrifice people for profit.
    I agree with you.

    It is Tory politicians doing what Tory politicians do - acting in the interests of a few at the expense of the many, and dressing it up with false claims about 'national interest' and other flag waving hypocrisy. Although Sunak and Truss do seem to be a bit surprised by the real world effect of all their policy decisions - so I'm not convinced they have worked it all out in their heads and focus groups.

    But what I do not accept is that this is all the product of an international conspiracy of super villains living in a cave in Switzerland or a bunker under Dallas - sending out instructions to their vast stable of acolytes running governments and corporations around the world.

    The rich and powerful have shared interests that they promote - and they talk to each other and collaborate to maximise their profits, wealth, status and influence. The poor and dispossessed have similar shared interests and need to find ways to fight back.

    That is the old capitalist/imperialist world order. Organ and Gluey like to overlay (often contradictory) plot lines that add nothing to our understanding of what happens and why - and have the effect of deflecting from what should be the real target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I agree with you.

    It is Tory politicians doing what Tory politicians do - acting in the interests of a few at the expense of the many, and dressing it up with false claims about 'national interest' and other flag waving hypocrisy. Although Sunak and Truss do seem to be a bit surprised by the real world effect of all their policy decisions - so I'm not convinced they have worked it all out in their heads and focus groups.

    But what I do not accept is that this is all the product of an international conspiracy of super villains living in a cave in Switzerland or a bunker under Dallas - sending out instructions to their vast stable of acolytes running governments and corporations around the world.

    The rich and powerful have shared interests that they promote - and they talk to each other and collaborate to maximise their profits, wealth, status and influence. The poor and dispossessed have similar shared interests and need to find ways to fight back.

    That is the old capitalist/imperialist world order. Organ and Gluey like to overlay (often contradictory) plot lines that add nothing to our understanding of what happens and why - and have the effect of deflecting from what should be the real target.
    Regarding your fourth paragraph, the “independent thinkers” (who all think the same things) seem to believe that the rest of us haven’t realised this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I agree with you.

    It is Tory politicians doing what Tory politicians do - acting in the interests of a few at the expense of the many, and dressing it up with false claims about 'national interest' and other flag waving hypocrisy. Although Sunak and Truss do seem to be a bit surprised by the real world effect of all their policy decisions - so I'm not convinced they have worked it all out in their heads and focus groups.

    But what I do not accept is that this is all the product of an international conspiracy of super villains living in a cave in Switzerland or a bunker under Dallas - sending out instructions to their vast stable of acolytes running governments and corporations around the world.

    The rich and powerful have shared interests that they promote - and they talk to each other and collaborate to maximise their profits, wealth, status and influence. The poor and dispossessed have similar shared interests and need to find ways to fight back.

    That is the old capitalist/imperialist world order. Organ and Gluey like to overlay (often contradictory) plot lines that add nothing to our understanding of what happens and why - and have the effect of deflecting from what should be the real target.
    I was amazed when all the lefties started attacking Corbyn, and now they are paying the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I was amazed when all the lefties started attacking Corbyn, and now they are paying the price.
    Agree but you can't be that detached from the World surely? The British (let's get it right) English (and the Wannabee English) electorate are brainwashed against anything remotely Socialist.

    Kier Starmer (FFS ditch the Sir nonsense asap lad) is trying his best to distance himself from Jeremy Corbyn as humanly possible because he knows the conservative (small C) voters (many times more active than Socialists) have engrained values whereby they don't give a f**k about anyone else as long as they've got a luxurious, languid life.

    Keir(bollo**s to the Sir) is trying to pretend his party is not Socialist in order to pick up votes from the revolting, lucky mass of human excrement which dictates how we all live.

    I have no to time for our Keir as I'm a huge Corbyn fan but I understand he desperately needs to bullshit incessantly just to become electable in this God forsaken cesspit of a country. So as far as I am concerned he can dissemble as much as he likes as long as we can be rid of Tory filth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    This has been campaigned for since 2012, the Government have been advising that every school buys a defib since 2013, they've just finally made it law. Congratulations to the bereaved parent who's kept at them for ten years to try and stop other parents going through what they did.

    https://theoliverkingfoundation.co.u...0Defibrillator

    https://www.sadsuk.org.uk/blog/detai...on-people.html




    Embarrassing.
    It's a coincidence, then? I forecast it would be earlier in this thread.

    A coincidence the government never thought of placing defibrillators in schools to potentially save lives for the past 40 years since portable ones became available but suddenly care enough to do so in 2022.

    I read yesterday a news article claiming cold showers could trigger heart attacks. Add that to hot weather and caffeine.

    What will be on the list by next year? Tying shoelaces, combing hair? The 'let's blame anything other than the clot shots' propaganda is becoming ever more desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    It's a coincidence, then? I forecast it would be earlier in this thread.

    A coincidence the government never thought of placing defibrillators in schools to potentially save lives for the past 40 years since portable ones became available but suddenly care enough to do so in 2022.

    I read yesterday a news article claiming cold showers could trigger heart attacks. Add that to hot weather and caffeine.

    What will be on the list by next year? Tying shoelaces, combing hair? The 'let's blame anything other than the clot shots' propaganda is becoming ever more desperate.
    One last thing before I leave you alone. If I understand you right, Covid vaccines are a means by which the Illuminati, Fabian Society or whatever they're being called this week are killing us all off gradually as part of a "Great Reset". Therefore, my question is why are "they" putting defibrillators in every school in England? Isn't that rather defeating the object of their grand plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    One last thing before I leave you alone. If I understand you right, Covid vaccines are a means by which the Illuminati, Fabian Society or whatever they're being called this week are killing us all off gradually as part of a "Great Reset". Therefore, my question is why are "they" putting defibrillators in every school in England? Isn't that rather defeating the object of their grand plan?
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