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[the other bob wilson]

Odd that Morison doesn’t rate Colwill as he surely suits the passing style he wants the team to play. He looked a cut above in the April fixture. He needs to be playing to press his Wales claims too.

Although Morison has praised Colwill in the past, he's hardly talked about him in the same way that, say, the Wales camp have done. However, there's been plenty of critical stuff from our manager concerning the player who may be the most naturally talented we have in first team contention and how he needs to do more when we're out of possession (this week he said Colwill couldn't head the ball for toffee, although, to be fair, it was meant as a joke).

I'd also say that Morison's criticisms are valid to a degree - the manager sets great store on what we do out of possession and it certainly isn't a strong part of Colwill's game, but my view is that, especially last season, beggars cannot be choosers. Colwill was one of very few players we had who, to use the current term, could be called a "difference maker", yet he spent more time on the bench than in the starting eleven under Morison and for a while after Tommy Doyle came in from Man City on loan he wasn't even making the matchday sixteen.

It may be that Colwill will be an automatic choice when he's fit again, but I'd be surprised if that was the case and this goes some of the way to explaining that rumour (and I emphasise it's nothing more than that) about Morison not fancying Colwill.

[olderblue]

I rate Colwill very highly, he's the type of player that you would look to build a team around in my view
Morison needs to get the best out of him, and joking or not he's hardly likely to do that with public criticism of the lad.
Yesterday we were crying out for someone who could take hold of the ball and drive at them, we dont have too many gifted players in our team who can do that, Colwill apart.
We have a number of players who can probably make a decent living playing in Division one or 2
Like Nelson Harris etc
They simply don't have the ability, football intelligence or capability to be a good Championship player
Rather than persist with them when its blantly obvious that this is the case, I'd sooner see Denham and Colwill given a run in the side.
Its early days and Morison is learning on the job
Let's hope he learns quickly enough that to get the best out the players he has, he needs to add man management to list of things to improve on!

[Q]

Although Morison has praised Colwill in the past, he's hardly talked about him in the same way that, say, the Wales camp have done. However, there's been plenty of critical stuff from our manager concerning the player who may be the most naturally talented we have in first team contention and how he needs to do more when we're out of possession (this week he said Colwill couldn't head the ball for toffee, although, to be fair, it was meant as a joke).

I'd also say that Morison's criticisms are valid to a degree - the manager sets great store on what we do out of possession and it certainly isn't a strong part of Colwill's game, but my view is that, especially last season, beggars cannot be choosers. Colwill was one of very few players we had who, to use the current term, could be called a "difference maker", yet he spent more time on the bench than in the starting eleven under Morison and for a while after Tommy Doyle came in from Man City on loan he wasn't even making the matchday sixteen.

It may be that Colwill will be an automatic choice when he's fit again, but I'd be surprised if that was the case and this goes some of the way to explaining that rumour (and I emphasise it's nothing more than that) about Morison not fancying Colwill.

Maybe the championship has come too soon and he needed loan time elsewhere. The bit I don’t understand is what is his position on a pitch. Is he a central mid, a ten, a winger, etc. I just don’t know what his position is and don’t think he works hard enough to be in the spine of a team. If fit he should have played every week at the end of last season and I think that’s telling of Morisons view.

Saying that at yesterdays match I watched some of the subs warming up at Half time and it was embarrassing how poor one in particular was at passing; not once did he find his pass and when he came on he looked like someone you work with when u are 2 up not chasing a game . Colwill would offer more

[Carl Dale's Mole]

Saying that at yesterdays match I watched some of the subs warming up at Half time and it was embarrassing how poor one in particular was at passing; not once did he find his pass and when he came on he looked like someone you work with when u are 2 up not chasing a game . Colwill would offer more

Well go on then...who was it?

[the other bob wilson]

Maybe the championship has come too soon and he needed loan time elsewhere. The bit I don’t understand is what is his position on a pitch. Is he a central mid, a ten, a winger, etc. I just don’t know what his position is and don’t think he works hard enough to be in the spine of a team. If fit he should have played every week at the end of last season and I think that’s telling of Morisons view.

Saying that at yesterdays match I watched some of the subs warming up at Half time and it was embarrassing how poor one in particular was at passing; not once did he find his pass and when he came on he looked like someone you work with when u are 2 up not chasing a game . Colwill would offer more

I'm old enough and I think you are as well, to remember seventeen year olds like Joe Ledley and Chris Gunter performing to a perfectly acceptable level during the noughties in the Championship and I'm not sure that things have changed so much in the last fifteen years or so that a clearly talented nineteen year old, as Colwill was last season, has to be treated as if he's not yet ready for first team football.

It's now almost a year since Colwill came on to win a game at Forest by scoring twice - who would someone watching as a neutral have rated as the better young Welsh prospect that afternoon, Colwill or the rather anonymous Brennan Johnson who started the game and was replaced for the last ten minutes?

That's not me saying that Colwill is a better player than Johnson or that the latter plays in a worse team than Colwill does, but it is interesting, and somewhat depressing, to note the different attitude at the two clubs towards a talented young player.

[Q]

I'm old enough and I think you are as well, to remember seventeen year olds like Joe Ledley and Chris Gunter performing to a perfectly acceptable level during the noughties in the Championship and I'm not sure that things have changed so much in the last fifteen years or so that a clearly talented nineteen year old, as Colwill was last season, has to be treated as if he's not yet ready for first team football.

It's now almost a year since Colwill came on to win a game at Forest by scoring twice - who would someone watching as a neutral have rated as the better young Welsh prospect that afternoon, Colwill or the rather anonymous Brennan Johnson who started the game and was replaced for the last ten minutes?

That's not me saying that Colwill is a better player than Johnson or that the latter plays in a worse team than Colwill does, but it is interesting, and somewhat depressing, to note the different attitude at the two clubs towards a talented young player.

Don’t think there’s anything about age, Ledley and Gunter both seemed more physical than Colwill, however Colwill is more talented and I’d hope to see him more. I just don’t know where and when anymore.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I'm old enough and I think you are as well, to remember seventeen year olds like Joe Ledley and Chris Gunter performing to a perfectly acceptable level during the noughties in the Championship and I'm not sure that things have changed so much in the last fifteen years or so that a clearly talented nineteen year old, as Colwill was last season, has to be treated as if he's not yet ready for first team football.

It's now almost a year since Colwill came on to win a game at Forest by scoring twice - who would someone watching as a neutral have rated as the better young Welsh prospect that afternoon, Colwill or the rather anonymous Brennan Johnson who started the game and was replaced for the last ten minutes?

That's not me saying that Colwill is a better player than Johnson or that the latter plays in a worse team than Colwill does, but it is interesting, and somewhat depressing, to note the different attitude at the two clubs towards a talented young player.

I'm undecided about Colwill - he hasn't got the quickest pair of feet and doesn't seem too keen to do the boring stuff - chasing back, tackling, etc. He's good footballer but whether he's good enough to be in a Championship starting line up is another thing.

[Jordi Culé]

I'm old enough and I think you are as well, to remember seventeen year olds like Joe Ledley and Chris Gunter performing to a perfectly acceptable level during the noughties in the Championship and I'm not sure that things have changed so much in the last fifteen years or so that a clearly talented nineteen year old, as Colwill was last season, has to be treated as if he's not yet ready for first team football.

It's now almost a year since Colwill came on to win a game at Forest by scoring twice - who would someone watching as a neutral have rated as the better young Welsh prospect that afternoon, Colwill or the rather anonymous Brennan Johnson who started the game and was replaced for the last ten minutes?

That's not me saying that Colwill is a better player than Johnson or that the latter plays in a worse team than Colwill does, but it is interesting, and somewhat depressing, to note the different attitude at the two clubs towards a talented young player.

The attitude of the clubs or is it the attitude of the respective managers?

I don't imagine Steve Cooper not utilising Colwill into a side that sometimes seems bereft of any footballing talent or ability to pass the ball if he was at City?

A bit unfair on Morison perhaps?

[Des Parrot]

I'm old enough and I think you are as well, to remember seventeen year olds like Joe Ledley and Chris Gunter performing to a perfectly acceptable level during the noughties in the Championship and I'm not sure that things have changed so much in the last fifteen years or so that a clearly talented nineteen year old, as Colwill was last season, has to be treated as if he's not yet ready for first team football.

It's now almost a year since Colwill came on to win a game at Forest by scoring twice - who would someone watching as a neutral have rated as the better young Welsh prospect that afternoon, Colwill or the rather anonymous Brennan Johnson who started the game and was replaced for the last ten minutes?

That's not me saying that Colwill is a better player than Johnson or that the latter plays in a worse team than Colwill does, but it is interesting, and somewhat depressing, to note the different attitude at the two clubs towards a talented young player.

Excellent post / assessment.

Personally as someone has said above, I don’t know what his position is. Where did he play in the academy?

[the other bob wilson]

Excellent post / assessment.

Personally as someone has said above, I don’t know what his position is. Where did he play in the academy?

It was quite like he is now, he’d play out wide sometimes and central midfield others, but probably it was mostly in the number ten type position. I’m beginning to think he might end up playing in a position I never saw him in as a youth and under 21/23 player - striker.

[Pearcey3]

Although Morison has praised Colwill in the past, he's hardly talked about him in the same way that, say, the Wales camp have done. However, there's been plenty of critical stuff from our manager concerning the player who may be the most naturally talented we have in first team contention and how he needs to do more when we're out of possession (this week he said Colwill couldn't head the ball for toffee, although, to be fair, it was meant as a joke).

I'd also say that Morison's criticisms are valid to a degree - the manager sets great store on what we do out of possession and it certainly isn't a strong part of Colwill's game, but my view is that, especially last season, beggars cannot be choosers. Colwill was one of very few players we had who, to use the current term, could be called a "difference maker", yet he spent more time on the bench than in the starting eleven under Morison and for a while after Tommy Doyle came in from Man City on loan he wasn't even making the matchday sixteen.

It may be that Colwill will be an automatic choice when he's fit again, but I'd be surprised if that was the case and this goes some of the way to explaining that rumour (and I emphasise it's nothing more than that) about Morison not fancying Colwill.

Shades of John Swift here. Swift didn’t like to tackle or track back and it is noticeable how much more physical we now look in midfield. Yet he could create something out of nothing with a pass.

One thing that does strike me is Colwill is a big lad so he isn’t going to be quick. Does he need to shed some pounds? For the sake of Cardiff and Wales I hope he gets regular game time because he is a natural talent. Colwill was picked out by some of our older and wiser fans as impressive in the April fixture.

[Divine Wright]

Although Morison has praised Colwill in the past, he's hardly talked about him in the same way that, say, the Wales camp have done. However, there's been plenty of critical stuff from our manager concerning the player who may be the most naturally talented we have in first team contention and how he needs to do more when we're out of possession (this week he said Colwill couldn't head the ball for toffee, although, to be fair, it was meant as a joke).

I'd also say that Morison's criticisms are valid to a degree - the manager sets great store on what we do out of possession and it certainly isn't a strong part of Colwill's game, but my view is that, especially last season, beggars cannot be choosers. Colwill was one of very few players we had who, to use the current term, could be called a "difference maker", yet he spent more time on the bench than in the starting eleven under Morison and for a while after Tommy Doyle came in from Man City on loan he wasn't even making the matchday sixteen.

It may be that Colwill will be an automatic choice when he's fit again, but I'd be surprised if that was the case and this goes some of the way to explaining that rumour (and I emphasise it's nothing more than that) about Morison not fancying Colwill.

I think Morison subscribes to the Mourinho style of reverse psychology, tough love when it comes to praising his players.

He seems to be more likely to point out the negative, believing this to be more in line with the demands of this league, than encourage with positives.

[City123]

Although Morison has praised Colwill in the past, he's hardly talked about him in the same way that, say, the Wales camp have done. However, there's been plenty of critical stuff from our manager concerning the player who may be the most naturally talented we have in first team contention and how he needs to do more when we're out of possession (this week he said Colwill couldn't head the ball for toffee, although, to be fair, it was meant as a joke).

I'd also say that Morison's criticisms are valid to a degree - the manager sets great store on what we do out of possession and it certainly isn't a strong part of Colwill's game, but my view is that, especially last season, beggars cannot be choosers. Colwill was one of very few players we had who, to use the current term, could be called a "difference maker", yet he spent more time on the bench than in the starting eleven under Morison and for a while after Tommy Doyle came in from Man City on loan he wasn't even making the matchday sixteen.

It may be that Colwill will be an automatic choice when he's fit again, but I'd be surprised if that was the case and this goes some of the way to explaining that rumour (and I emphasise it's nothing more than that) about Morison not fancying Colwill.

I think Colwill will be a good indication of how much we've actually changed as a club. The football is better and I think Morison's done well with the signings, but there seems to be an idea amongst some of our fanbase that we've changed completely, I really don't think that's the case. The emphasis is still on physicality and athleticism before technical ability, particularly in midfield.