2-0 down at home to Brighton who’ve just scored a great second goal = both scored by Gross who cost them about £1.5 million.
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2-0 down at home to Brighton who’ve just scored a great second goal = both scored by Gross who cost them about £1.5 million.
Erik ten Hag out.
Just love to see it. Lovely counter from Brighton but also seemed so easy.
I think UTD are lucky not to be down to 10 men after that McTominay tackle.
Don’t know if it’s my eyesight, my TV, or his new haircut, but Danny Welbeck looks a lot older this season.
He is older.Originally Posted by William Treseder
By one year.
He's no spring chicken these days. He's 32 this year.
Ref's and VAR still give them the decisions. That should have been a penalty for Brighton
FT: Man Utd 1 - 2 Brighton
No leadership on the pitch from Man U. Long may it continue.
how have successive managers failed to realise that mctominay is just not good enough for that level
Another Manager who won’t see out his contract. The Ferguson effect is still hampering the Club.
Indeed. Fergie left them in disarray, loads of top stars leaving and no quality replacements. Mind you, there's no excuse for the plethora of failed managers that followed and failed to rebuild. It's not like they've got no money either.
A case of picking wrong manager after wrong manager in my opinion.
... and expecting them to be as good as Fergie.
I would argue that Fergie himself got somewhat lucky to a certain degree though.
What would he have achieved without that class of 92 coming through....
He did sign some great players to be fair to him, but he might not have been there to sign them in the first place if that crop hadn't have come through when they did.
Got lucky in the 1990 semi final as well, that saved his skin.
Agreed, wasn't it Mark Robins or someone that basically saved his career at Utd?
Robins scored a winning goal in a tricky Third Round FA Cup tie at Forest when it was generally felt that they would go out and Fergie would lose his job - he’d been in charge for something like three or four ears then and there been no real sign of improvement, but after they won the Cup, all of the pressure he was under disappeared.
That 89/90 season was one where United struggled, were close to the relegation zone for most of it and had shown another season of decline under Ferguson. Liverpool lost a classic FA cup semi to Palace. Villa, unlikely league runners up, lost at Oldham on the plastic pitch. All the big sides fell away, leaving the door open for an average United side to win the cup after a replay. Mark Robins was a scoring sensation at the end of the season and kept them up.
The following season saw what I thought was a defining moment. Arsenal, unbeaten at home all season, played United in a league cup game at Highbury. United were 3-0 up in no time but Arsenal pulled it back to 3-2. United were scintillating in attack and won 6-2. Arsenal won the league, losing only once all season. They conceded 18 at home in the league all season and were unbeaten, yet in that one game they were absolutely battered. If I remember correctly, United played quite a few youngsters in that game. 2 years later they won the league.
United won the first PL with 84 points. That was for a 42 game season, which equates to 78 points for a 38 game season. Only once has the PL champions in a 38 game season won less than 78 points, ironically United in 1997
A good documentary, it covers those seasons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXLF1qmizO4 Sir Alex Ferguson Never give up
It would be 76 points over a 38 game season, exactly 2 points per game.
That 96/97 season was quite extraordinary. Second only had 68 points and 8 points separated 9th from 19th.
That’s a good summary Eric, but I’d add the Cup Winners Cup Final over Barcelona in 1991 when Mark Hughes scored twice as a big factor as well.
That League Cup game you mention stunned me at the time because things like that just did not happen to that Arsenal team - Manchester United’s pace ripped Arsenal apart - didn’t Lee Sharpe score a hat trick?
Yep! just like us! one loss and relegation fodder
Funny how things pan out. Warnock is arguably a better manager
And Brighton should have had a penalty as well. It was a good performance by them especially as they seem to sell their best players.
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