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No, the thread has moved on to the rights and wrongs of reporting it, the consequences thereof, and whether there are other scenarios that make people feel unwelcome in the ground.Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
I asked what peoples thoughts on it were.
I often bring a few of my girls football team up, they all know " what goes on at football, stays at football ", all the girls are English, I have explained its just football banter, I know one of them takes it to heart and it does " sour " her day at the football ( her mum has told me ) but thats just football, its improved a lot over the years, but its still edgy at times and I wouldn't want it too sterile
I agree, I don't want it to be sterile. I think these things can be complex and nuanced issues, and I suppose that's my point.
I know that some people are intimidated by certain chants and behaviour that are discriminatory and are against the ground regulations but some people have defended, whilst objecting (rightly) to the homophobic slur.
I don't know what the answer is really. Probably that we call it out more, understand things more and maybe dont label everything as a hate crime when it may not be. It may just be arsehole behaviour.
We are all inconsistent and thats part of what makes us human I guess.
My mates stood up to a group of young lads who were chanting (at the Pompey match) at a young girl who had the audacity to tell them to get behind the team. They’re handy mind so if it did go tits up they could have handled it, but it still takes courage to stand up to people. Long may it continue though
Did your mates ring WOL straight after though - and make a point of stating their sexuality.
No but they’d have been well within their rights if they had done. The days of “lads” down the football thinking they’re above the law are gone (and I used to be one of them)
I got news for you Underhill I'm afraid it haven't....and we seen an example of a couple of lads on the touch line at Chelsea v Spurs today.
Zzzzz - a boring anorak
If grown ups want to meet up and batter the **** out of each other in the name of football then let them carry on. Homophobic, sexist or racist abuse should always be called out and stamped out
I wish someone would empower our strikers.
I agree but where does it stop are you gonna start calling out lads that are coked up or even vaping in the ground because if that starts happening there will be a lot more empty seats than there were on Saturday.
I’d imagine it stops with calling out homophobic, racist or sexist abuse. How you’ve got to “but won’t somebody think of the potential consequences for the cokeheads and vapers” from this case is pretty mental
Although I think it's fair to ask 'where does it end', this did make me laugh.
Won't someone think of the cokeheads and vapers!?
I think you'll find the opposite would be true.
To even mention Coke heads and vapers in the context is ridiculous
Not really - it’s all illegal in the eyes of the moral ethics committee.
Anyone who disagrees with you has "Unfathomable views" but your views are reasonable? Lol
You once stated on here that you are FOR open borders. I.E. No borders on the planet what so ever. Very reasonable view that is...
There's a rumour running around that you're supposedly a christian? How would your god feel about your predilection towards discriminating among the planet's peoples with borders. There is only once race on the planet - the human race.
You sound like a brainwashed citizen of cultural marxism. Sometimes the middle class can be so painful to watch.
Homosexuals have never created institutions that have endeavoured to exploit and bury other cultures.
The rainbow flag represents pride in defiance against bigotry and hate.
The union jack flag represents pride in violent, military dominance.
Comparing the two is pretty twisted.
Easy to see why that particular kind of discriminatory behaviour is tolerated by some if thats what you think.
Is is literally a flag made from the flags of countries England conquered and colonised. And we're not even represented on it.
even though we helped conquer the scot , no effing gratitude
Is it? He is correct.
Your inability to see the world from a different perspective is quite striking.
The UK's history is very similar to most other western countries. That doesn't make abusing people because of their nationality okay, especially when you are in a thread that is (rightly) condemning someone using a gay slur (against someone who isn't gay) and then condoning mass xenophobic chanting.
You are either consistent or not on this really.
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