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    Rishi Sunak on Covid lockdowns

    The lockdown files: Rishi Sunak on what we weren't told

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...we-werent-told

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    Edit: Accidentally posted on the wrong forum, so mods may want to move it. However, it is quite a story that he is now telling.

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    Ahhhh - hindsight the weakest form of wisdom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Ahhhh - hindsight the weakest form of wisdom
    Well Captain Hindsight haunted the government throughout instead of taking a radical approach and challenge.. I'm guessing he loved Sage ... along Nicola of the North and Mark the Tsar of the South..

    All guilty of not seeing bigger to busy scoring points ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Well Captain Hindsight haunted the government throughout instead of taking a radical approach and challenge.. I'm guessing he loved Sage ... along Nicola of the North and Mark the Tsar of the South..

    All guilty of not seeing bigger to busy scoring points ..
    Drakeford was the worst, he wanted us locked down forever!

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    The government's reaction to Covid is a classic case of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't", and like someone else said, it's easy to be wise after the event. They did what they thought was right at the time, and they made some mistakes, but they also got some stuff right. An awful lot of money was wasted, but what if things had got really bad? Then they'd have been heroes, ready and prepared for the worst case scenario.
    One other problem with Covid is that we are going to be paying for it for years, just at a time when we can't afford to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    The government's reaction to Covid is a classic case of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't", and like someone else said, it's easy to be wise after the event. They did what they thought was right at the time, and they made some mistakes, but they also got some stuff right. An awful lot of money was wasted, but what if things had got really bad? Then they'd have been heroes, ready and prepared for the worst case scenario.
    One other problem with Covid is that we are going to be paying for it for years, just at a time when we can't afford to.
    Spoken like a true tory

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Drakeford was the worst, he wanted us locked down forever!
    He did a good job on the whole . The Tories had the chance and Wales wasn't interested

    God bless the Taffies

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    He did a good job on the whole . The Tories had the chance and Wales wasn't interested

    God bless the Taffies
    I don't really criticise any of them that much, because these were very difficult decisions.

    But Drakeford had numerous advantages (didnt have to worry about the wider economic impact as much or make decisions on furlough, less densely populated communities etc etc)

    Yet..

    What did Drakeford do that was demonstrably different?

    What end result was demonstrably different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    He did a good job on the whole . The Tories had the chance and Wales wasn't interested

    God bless the Taffies
    Don’t know about that, he ruined a few by locking down for the omicron over Christmas when the South Africans were busing telling the world it was far milder…..now he’s busing ruining the tourism industry

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Don’t know about that, he ruined a few by locking down for the omicron over Christmas when the South Africans were busing telling the world it was far milder…..now he’s busing ruining the tourism industry
    All that bloody busing

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    F*ck all of them. None of them live in my world anyway. It could be argued that not many do!

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    Perhaps the so called conspiracy theorists shouldn't have been silenced so quickly.

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    There speaks a man who’s trying anything to become Prime Minister. I for one am pleased that there was a tendency to err on the side of caution at a time when so little was known about Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    There speaks a man who’s trying anything to become Prime Minister. I for one am pleased that there was a tendency to err on the side of caution at a time when so little was known about Covid.
    Exactly Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I don't really criticise any of them that much, because these were very difficult decisions.

    But Drakeford had numerous advantages (didnt have to worry about the wider economic impact as much or make decisions on furlough, less densely populated communities etc etc)

    Yet..

    What did Drakeford do that was demonstrably different?

    What end result was demonstrably different?
    Wales isn’t less densely populated than England. If you take the base number of “population density” then sure, we’re less dense than England. But with a bit of common sense we aren’t. We’re 50 times denser than Australia but anyone that’s been to Sydney or Melbourne will know they make Cardiff look like a village.

    Our people are much more consolidated than in England. Half our population are based within 50 miles of eachother in South Wales with a 1/3rd in only 3 major urban areas. The middle of Wales is basically empty. A large scale Covid outbreak in Cardiff or Swansea has much more of an impact than the same scale out break in Leicester, Reading, Bristol, Brighton, Plymouth, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Wales isn’t less densely populated than England. If you take the base number of “population density” then sure, we’re less dense than England. But with a bit of common sense we aren’t. We’re 50 times denser than Australia but anyone that’s been to Sydney or Melbourne will know they make Cardiff look like a village.

    Our people are much more consolidated than in England. Half our population are based within 50 miles of eachother in South Wales with a 1/3rd in only 3 major urban areas. The middle of Wales is basically empty. A large scale Covid outbreak in Cardiff or Swansea has much more of an impact than the same scale out break in Leicester, Reading, Bristol, Brighton, Plymouth, etc.
    Industrial south Wales is very densely populated , from Newport through to Swansea and the valleys and towns off the M4 a covid outbreak had to be contained as much as possible

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    Re: Rishi Sunak on Covid lockdowns

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I don't really criticise any of them that much, because these were very difficult decisions.

    But Drakeford.........
    'The nuance is strong in this one!' Darth Vader deleted scene from A New Hope.

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    Re: Rishi Sunak on Covid lockdowns

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I don't really criticise any of them that much, because these were very difficult decisions.

    But Drakeford had numerous advantages (didnt have to worry about the wider economic impact as much or make decisions on furlough, less densely populated communities etc etc)

    Yet..

    What did Drakeford do that was demonstrably different?

    What end result was demonstrably different?

    He just tried to be stupid and delay everything, damage tourism, damage the economy and made petty stupid rules like you can't drive five miles for the sake of it!

    He proved if Labour was in full power, we would have locked down much harder for much longer and we would have been in a far worse position than we are now.

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    Re: Rishi Sunak on Covid lockdowns

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    He just tried to be stupid and delay everything, damage tourism, damage the economy and made petty stupid rules like you can't drive five miles for the sake of it!

    He proved if Labour was in full power, we would have locked down much harder for much longer and we would have been in a far worse position than we are now.
    'course he did. Easy for you to say it but much harder to do when you actually have the responsibility of millions of lives with an ever-changing set of scenarios to have to contend with. All these post Covid arguments are futile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    'course he did. Easy for you to say it but much harder to do when you actually have the responsibility of millions of lives with an ever-changing set of scenarios to have to contend with. All these post Covid arguments are futile.
    Fakeford was in lockstep with most G7 countries. How is it Africa got away with Covid generally unscathed, my guess is that they didn’t use a testing system with a high false positive rate and didn’t test all deaths within 28 days of a positive test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Fakeford was in lockstep with most G7 countries. How is it Africa got away with Covid generally unscathed, my guess is that they didn’t use a testing system with a high false positive rate and didn’t test all deaths within 28 days of a positive test.
    Grow up FFS. The Conspiracy Theorists's Board is over there -------->

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Grow up FFS. The Conspiracy Theorists's Board is over there -------->
    STFU

    Why don’t you answer the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    STFU

    Why don’t you answer the thread
    Why is the f*cking thread on the football section?

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    [QUOTE=Citizen's Nephew;5336838]Why is the f*cking thread on the football section?[/QUOTE
    He did say sorry for the wrong posting

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