Far-right Leader ( Italy's 1st female PM) Is European Landscape Changing

[life on mars]

Something afoot Holmes was UK right to leave .

[Wales-Bales]

Is she far-right or just not a WEF endorsed globalist?

[Canton Kev]

Nothing but sunlit uplands here in the UK

[JamesWales]

They aren’t really ‘far-right’ at all. Solidly right-wing perhaps, but, as if often the case, economically there are many traditional left-wing policies, and the ‘far-right’ label tends to come from the (supposedly liberal) media, concerned more with sensation than historical accuracy.

Nonetheless, it is a significant shift to the right, but has been coming in Italy for years as their economy has stagnated for many many years and it’s always been an electorate willing to look for more radical solutions – it was home to western Europes most successful Communist party for decades.

What it does show is that the problems we face are replicated to a greater or lesser extent almost everywhere. The winds blowing through national economies at the moment are regional and global in nature and that’s where the solutions also lie. Some here like to think every problem we face is caused by our government, and so some in Italy think the same. Both are wrong. Expect Italy to elect a left-wing government in their next election, which knowing Italy, probably won’t be more than 2-3 years away.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

They aren’t really ‘far-right’ at all. Solidly right-wing perhaps, but, as if often the case, economically there are many traditional left-wing policies, and the ‘far-right’ label tends to come from the (supposedly liberal) media, concerned more with sensation than historical accuracy.

Nonetheless, it is a significant shift to the right, but has been coming in Italy for years as their economy has stagnated for many many years and it’s always been an electorate willing to look for more radical solutions – it was home to western Europes most successful Communist party for decades.

What it does show is that the problems we face are replicated to a greater or lesser extent almost everywhere. The winds blowing through national economies at the moment are regional and global in nature and that’s where the solutions also lie. Some here like to think every problem we face is caused by our government, and so some in Italy think the same. Both are wrong. Expect Italy to elect a left-wing government in their next election, which knowing Italy, probably won’t be more than 2-3 years away.

According to Wikipedia, " Since the end of World War II in 1945, Italy has had 69 governments, at an average of one every 1.11 years"!

[Eric Cartman]

They aren’t really ‘far-right’ at all. Solidly right-wing perhaps, but, as if often the case, economically there are many traditional left-wing policies, and the ‘far-right’ label tends to come from the (supposedly liberal) media, concerned more with sensation than historical accuracy.

Nonetheless, it is a significant shift to the right, but has been coming in Italy for years as their economy has stagnated for many many years and it’s always been an electorate willing to look for more radical solutions – it was home to western Europes most successful Communist party for decades.

What it does show is that the problems we face are replicated to a greater or lesser extent almost everywhere. The winds blowing through national economies at the moment are regional and global in nature and that’s where the solutions also lie. Some here like to think every problem we face is caused by our government, and so some in Italy think the same. Both are wrong. Expect Italy to elect a left-wing government in their next election, which knowing Italy, probably won’t be more than 2-3 years away.

I did wonder this when I saw the headline, they like to throw around far right/far left labels very often.

Here is the matrix and viewpoint from political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/italy2022

[Citizen's Nephew]

I did wonder this when I saw the headline, they like to throw around far right/far left labels very often.

Here is the matrix and viewpoint from political compass:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/italy2022

Although Meloni, 45, began her political life in the Youth Wing of the fascist Italian Social Movement, she has distanced herself from Mussolini’s suppression of democracy and the anti-Jewish laws. At the same time, her close links to the likes of Spain’s far right Vox Party and Hungary’s authoritarian nationalist leader Viktor Orbán reveal her inner-most instincts. Universal rights and protection of minorities, including the LGBT community, are not to her liking, and there is no question that a Meloni-led coalition would be at odds with much of the EU project. Meloni nevertheless is keen to continue with post-Covid funding from Brussels.

That sounds pretty far f*cking right to me. She sounds awful.

[Dorcus]

Although Meloni, 45, began her political life in the Youth Wing of the fascist Italian Social Movement, she has distanced herself from Mussolini’s suppression of democracy and the anti-Jewish laws. At the same time, her close links to the likes of Spain’s far right Vox Party and Hungary’s authoritarian nationalist leader Viktor Orbán reveal her inner-most instincts. Universal rights and protection of minorities, including the LGBT community, are not to her liking, and there is no question that a Meloni-led coalition would be at odds with much of the EU project. Meloni nevertheless is keen to continue with post-Covid funding from Brussels.

That sounds pretty far f*cking right to me. She sounds awful.

Almost as right as the current UK Government! Off the scale I think.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Almost as right as the current UK Government! Off the scale I think.

Agree. Then there's the cynical 'keen to continue with post-Covid funding from Brussels' bit.

[JamesWales]

Almost as right as the current UK Government! Off the scale I think.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Again, you take the p*ss but he's on the money. You can't face up to the fact that you're always supporting a government and party that have some fairly despicable policies and views on the freedoms of their people. It's what you do. You'll keep doing it. It won't change.

[JamesWales]

Again, you take the p*ss but he's on the money. You can't face up to the fact that you're always supporting a government and party that have some fairly despicable policies and views on the freedoms of their people. It's what you do. You'll keep doing it. It won't change.

No he isn't. He's absolutely incorrect. To say "Italy's new "far-right" government is almost as right [wing] as the UK's is just plain wrong. Opinions are one thing, and I'll grant you, the definitions of right and left are imperfect, but it is an absurd characterisation.

What are these policies you speak of!?

[Citizen's Nephew]

No he isn't. He's absolutely incorrect. To say "Italy's new "far-right" government is almost as right [wing] as the UK's is just plain wrong. Opinions are one thing, and I'll grant you, the definitions of right and left are imperfect, but it is an absurd characterisation.

What are these policies you speak of!?

Deportation of asylum-seekers to Rwanda, Rights to Protest, forcing people with disabilities to work more hours on a whim in Friday's budget (yes, these are the one's who have been incorrectly told they are fit for work and will win after appeal after a year's wait, IF they live that long). Keeping environmental protesters in prison without trial for 6 months. Humiliating disabled people during capability for work assessments. DWP illegally allowing energy companies to take money from vulnerable people at source. Demonising vulnerable people. This stuff we've/I've been on the receiving end of for 12 f*cking years. This is right wing ideology. Just read the stuff Braverman has said recently.

I'm not in the mood James. He's not incorrect. It's not absurd. It's just that you think these things because you're an apologist for these tw*ts in power and have been ever since I've been reading your posts. We all know this. Take a straw poll mate and see what people think.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Almost as right as the current UK Government! Off the scale I think.

In the same link posted by Eric earlier, here's something else:

Throughout so much of Europe, we’re seeing the emergence of a sort of national socialism, facilitated partly through the Left’s declining ability to connect with working class voters. In Italy, the progressive parties have failed to counter what looks likely to be a right wing landslide.

I'd say that's very similar to the rhetoric and actions from the Conservatives wouldn't you?

Take note Starmer boy!

Edit: and if that doesn't put the fear of the gods into people, then we're heading for a rinse and repeat of European history and we all know where that leads.

[Dorcus]

In the same link posted by Eric earlier, here's something else:

Throughout so much of Europe, we’re seeing the emergence of a sort of national socialism, facilitated partly through the Left’s declining ability to connect with working class voters. In Italy, the progressive parties have failed to counter what looks likely to be a right wing landslide.

I'd say that's very similar to the rhetoric and actions from the Conservatives wouldn't you?

Take note Starmer boy!

Edit: and if that doesn't put the fear of the gods into people, then we're heading for a rinse and repeat of European history and we all know where that leads.

Yes we live in really troubling times

[Citizen's Nephew]

Yes we live in really troubling times

By the way, I wasn't calling you Starmer boy! I was actually (and pointlessly) speaking directly to him.

[Dorcus]

By the way, I wasn't calling you Starmer boy! I was actually (and pointlessly) speaking directly to him.

Oh thanks for that, I would have been heartily upset, I would have accepted Corbyn boy though with glee 👍

[Wales-Bales]

[Wales-Bales]

She quoted Chesterton:

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[Clandestine]

Something afoot Holmes was UK right to leave .

Anyone who

• Doesn't agree with sex education of 8 year olds
• wants to see the encouragement of the nuclear family and not the destruction
• Questions the #clotshot science
• Thinks that aspiring to own a home is terrible thing
• Questions lazy bstards on the sofa watching Jeremy Kyle all day claiming benners
• Thinks that the NHS has sufficient funding but is wasted by idiotic woke management
• Thinks that the US election has sufficient grounds for concern regarding cheating
• Thinks that the current resident of the WH is suspect around kids
• Questions the legitisy of the Ukrainian goverment and links to nazi's
• Wonders why Hunter Bidens laptop was labelled Fake News when the 3 letter agencies knew it wasn't
• Wonders why Epsteins visitors have been given a pass with no or little attempt to investigate
• Knows what a women is
• Isn't a Mother Wefer
• Ignores the green preaching rubbish

Is labelled Far Right

I have no idea if she is far right or not its just a label from the V Signallers which is used so much over every and anything its lost its shock appeal just like the F word has become everyday language.

Lets's at least give her a week to see if she can out B'stad Truss before applying a label.?

A.T.B
Clandestine

[Claude Blue]

Anyone who

• Doesn't agree with sex education of 8 year olds
• wants to see the encouragement of the nuclear family and not the destruction
• Questions the #clotshot science
• Thinks that aspiring to own a home is terrible thing
• Questions lazy bstards on the sofa watching Jeremy Kyle all day claiming benners
• Thinks that the NHS has sufficient funding but is wasted by idiotic woke management
• Thinks that the US election has sufficient grounds for concern regarding cheating
• Thinks that the current resident of the WH is suspect around kids
• Questions the legitisy of the Ukrainian goverment and links to nazi's
• Wonders why Hunter Bidens laptop was labelled Fake News when the 3 letter agencies knew it wasn't
• Wonders why Epsteins visitors have been given a pass with no or little attempt to investigate
• Knows what a women is
• Isn't a Mother Wefer
• Ignores the green preaching rubbish

Is labelled Far Right

I have no idea if she is far right or not its just a label from the V Signallers which is used so much over every and anything its lost its shock appeal just like the F word has become everyday language.

Lets's at least give her a week to see if she can out B'stad Truss before applying a label.?

A.T.B
Clandestine

Oh sorry, didn't realise you were being serious

[Canton Kev]

Oh sorry, didn't realise you were being serious

Anyone who signs off all their posts with their username is a bit barmy in my eyes.

Sincerely,
Canton Kev. Esq

[Organ Morgan.]

She sounded sincere in her victory address. But it's Italy. Their politicians are on a par with Greece's as few citizens have an iota of confidence in any of them.

I see she was fully onboard with the Covid-19 narrative and joined the Aspen Institute last year, which is another globalist think-tank that's crammed with Italy's black nobility clans. It must be odds-on she's a bait and switch wallah, much like Trump.

[ToTaL ITK]

She sounded sincere in her victory address. But it's Italy. Their politicians are on a par with Greece's as few citizens have an iota of confidence in any of them.

I see she was fully onboard with the Covid-19 narrative and joined the Aspen Institute last year, which is another globalist think-tank that's crammed with Italy's black nobility clans. It must be odds-on she's a bait and switch wallah, much like Trump.

but she's a looker eh morgan! and that's more important than politics today. Looks and loot

[Organ Morgan.]

She sounded sincere in her victory address. But it's Italy. Their politicians are on a par with Greece's as few citizens have an iota of confidence in any of them.

I see she was fully onboard with the Covid-19 narrative and joined the Aspen Institute last year, which is another globalist think-tank that's crammed with Italy's black nobility clans. It must be odds-on she's a bait and switch wallah, much like Trump.

Re above.

Aspen is another level above the WEF

- Aspen Institute is Cecil Rhodes globalist organization among the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, RIIA, Committee of 300, Club of Rome.
- Founded in 1950 by Walter Paepcke of the Masonic Order of the Knights of Malta. pic.twitter.com/uE0aYAIW9d

— Special Branch 🎭 (@Retardcommit_E) September 26, 2022

In this video, we see Meloni supporting the European Green Pass, roughly a year after she became an Aspen Institute member. It also seems that she has no plans to leave the Euro, making any "resistance" to Brussel" purely symbolichttps://t.co/cyvnNlyE4c

— MyFitnessFeelings (@fitnessfeelingz) September 27, 2022