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Interesting headline: Labour urges Suella Braverman to ramp up asylum seeker deportations
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...ns/ar-AA12CxIp
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
No not at all. I think sometimes you need to leave your right wing obsession behind and recognize aberrant and abhorrent behaviour in certain individuals who disgrace the human race.
You really shouldn't baulk at people just because they express their natural feelings of disgust in certain individuals and behaviours merely because you view the world in a different way.
Which is below the average for an MP by the way, nearly all taken up by staffing costs and is significantly below all four of our Cardiff MPs
Anna McMorrin (Cardiff North) claimed £232,812
Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) claimed £224,936
Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) claimed £220,170
Jo Stevens (Cardiff Central) claimed £187,863
This is a very interesting website;
https://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/mp/957
I have very little respect for people who are unable to express themselves without using violent, abusive or bigoted commentary Dorcus. The situation is almost certainly more complex than the black and white issue you paint it out to be and use extreme and knee-jerk language to try and comprehend.
All credit to you for contrition. However, I think that it has been suggested on here that the gangs who organise and profit from the cross-channel trade in people in the first place should be better targeted. Personally, I don't know the fine details as to exactly what is being done on that score - but in this day and age and with the access to technology and surveillance methods it does make one wonder if more could be done. It would also help if we had a government that was able to have a mature relationship with the country that most of the arrivals come from.In fairness to TBG, SwissPeter and Eric, I agree, on this you are correct, and I humbly withdraw that. It's important people will recognise when the argument lacks logic. Criticising a policy does NOT mean you support what is currently happening. Fair to point that out, my apologies.
That said, what endlessly frustrates me is the lack of an alternative proposal. I know it's not anyone's job on CCMB to propose that, but it is frustrating when something is criticised but no viable alternative is made. That alone is a recognition of why we are where we are.
Equally I have zero respect for anyone who chooses to ignore the contemptuous behaviour of a chancer appealing to the base nature of the lowest of the low. Spare yourself, your sanctimonious drivel is like water off a duck's back.
Oh behave, you knew exactly what you were doing and you got caught out.
Others would say your endless extreme language and inability to recognise or suggest alternatives to the problem is contemptuous. Talking of ducks, your contributions are more like a ducks quack. Angry and incoherent. Points for consistency though QUACK.
Still never a thread about solving the problem though is there? It starts as a circle jerk to slag someone off, continues as it, and ends that way.
I'm sure you can see why that gets tiresome.
I think it's you whose tiresome pal
Back down the rabbit hole. Justifying your comments because other posters write worse comments. You seem to be disintegrating by the minute, old fruit.
I agree with you on that, and I think it's fair to say that none of us know the reality of what goes on behind the scenes in that regard. But criminal gangs are not easy to take down and are usually quickly replaced, if the illicit trade is profitable, whether it be booze, cocaine or in this case people.
I said people are tolerant of the situation, which was wrong and I apologised. Someone else said something far worse and didn't, so I think it's a fair thing to point out.
I'm not stopping you posting endless posts full of knee-jerky vitriol if that's what you wish to do. I'm just calling you out on it. You crack on.
What the feck are you doing sticking up for this right wing rabble ?
You have spent some time playing the moderate tory card
But you have been rumbled here
You are as right wing as the home secretary who is also slagging off people on benefits to capture the right wing vote
You are embarrassing yourself siding with this lot . The only conclusion must be that your moderate tory stance was complete nonsense .
I suppose another way of saving £20bn of tax payer’s money would be to scrap the proposed Welsh Assembly ministerial increase by an additional 36.
The money could be better spend in numerous other area’s like homelessness, housing and health.
I see an eye watering £132m was claimed by all M.P’s during the same period ( excluding salary )
https://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/all
It's not so much a case of defending, it's a case of recognising who seems to be trying to do something about it and who isn't, or who doesn't seemingly see any issue at all. I really do think this is a huge issue and in time will be exposed as a huge scandal that so many are abusing the system, bypassing those most in need and enriching criminal gangs, all of which is paid for by us while the country is struggling for money as it is.
60% of these people are coming from Albania - A country not at war, with a democratically elected (socialist no less!) government via France - one of the safest countries on earth. Is Albania the best place in the world? I doubt it, but there are more deserving cases from a humanitarian perspective.
That's what frustrates me - everyone is running around with their upturned hands on their foreheads about how disgraceful the Home Secretary's language is (with some justification perhaps) but is near silent on the far greater scandals that she at least is trying to prevent from happening. I don't always like tough language, but I think moralising whilst being silent on the wider issue or trying to sweep it under the carpet is a worse attribute tbh. And yes, I appreciate that this isn't what always happens, but it sure happens a lot.
They didn't take any refugees from Hong Kong, they allowed British Nationals in Hong Kong from when it was a British territory, who have a specific visa that hasn't been issued in years to move here.
Yes, you are right to say that. It is open to upto 5.4m people though, with an estimated 300,000 likely to come over 5 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55357495
Source?
From the Independent:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2151836.html
Including a quote from a Trade Union:
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/...nian--reports/
From the Express - quoting A 12,000% increase in migrants coming from Albania:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/16...Priti-Patel-vn
Quote from the ISU Trade Union in the above article: “Members report the working hypothesis that the recent increases in Albanians is to replace those who have been arrested, imprisoned and/or deported as a result of increased police activity in the organised crime sphere. This is a hypothesis only, but does make sense.”
This isn't normal. Albania is a democracy with a functioning government. If our asylum system is being abused as a means of recruiting for organised criminal gangs, it's a serious issue that needs a serious response.
And a serious home secretary
Which , again , isn't what this twat is
James O'Brien, good lord.
Which part of what he said got your goat the most?
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