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    Up the strikers

    I joined the picket line outside Tredegar Ambiance Station today for 30 minutes with my old colleagues (I left the service in September). There appears to be good support from general public with many well wishers and constant beeping from passing motorists.

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    Absolutely

    That health Secretary in England is a complete asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Absolutely

    That health Secretary in England is a complete asshole
    You should apply for ladies health Secretary job

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Absolutely

    That health Secretary in England is a complete asshole
    Er.....in Wales, all health powers are devolved to the Welsh Assembly. If they wanted to give them a wage increase, they could. No need to ask Westminster.

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    Shit thought it was a footy thread

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    Shit thought it was a footy thread
    Just for you.

    https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/

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    fecking facists

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Shit thought it was a footy thread
    But that would read .. Up our strikers

    Do we have any ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    I joined the picket line outside Tredegar Ambiance Station today for 30 minutes with my old colleagues (I left the service in September). There appears to be good support from general public with many well wishers and constant beeping from passing motorists.
    Must be tiring for them to stand up that long they're normally sat down in the vans outside A&E for 7 hours.

    I've never once been able to get one, I used to have to take my mother in every time she fell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Must be tiring for them to stand up that long they're normally sat down in the vans outside A&E for 7 hours.

    I've never once been able to get one, I used to have to take my mother in every time she fell.
    Maybe you should consider not voting for a party that despises the NHS and that has wrecked it over the last 12 years.

    When the Tories came into power in 2010 the NHS has almost cleared the waiting lists and was well resourced. Prior to 2012 I had never had to queue outside a hospital waiting to admit a patient. It is due to the decimation of the NHS and social care that all hospitals are gridlocked, causing ambulances to queue up outside. Maybe that is the reason why you could not get an ambulance

    The last time the NHS was in such a state was in 1997 at the end of 18 years of Tory rule. I think there is a pattern in there somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    Maybe you should consider not voting for a party that despises the NHS and that has wrecked it over the last 12 years.

    When the Tories came into power in 2010 the NHS has almost cleared the waiting lists and was well resourced. Prior to 2012 I had never had to queue outside a hospital waiting to admit a patient. It is due to the decimation of the NHS and social care that all hospitals are gridlocked, causing ambulances to queue up outside. Maybe that is the reason why you could not get an ambulance

    The last time the NHS was in such a state was in 1997 at the end of 18 years of Tory rule. I think there is a pattern in there somewhere.
    Wales NHS? Drakeford's Labour, has the magic money died?

    There was enough to lower speeds to 20mph and waste on the brynglas tunnel alternative then decide not to bother after all and leave Wales like a car park.

    Even after the strike, they won't be able to drive around in Wales, he'll probably give them bikes and add some dedicated ambulance cycle lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Wales NHS? Drakeford's Labour, has the magic money died?

    There was enough to lower speeds to 20mph and waste on the brynglas tunnel alternative then decide not to bother after all and leave Wales like a car park.
    Central government sets the amount of money available for the budget in Wales with a pro rata amount for health set against the budget for the NHS in England. Please try a little harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    Central government sets the amount of money available for the budget in Wales with a pro rata amount for health set against the budget for the NHS in England. Please try a little harder.
    The Welsh government has a budget for Wales and decides how to waste it, it doesn't have to make sure it goes to the best needs.

    Longer lockdowns, no travel more than five miles, free prescriptions, slower roads, blocked motorways, more cycle lanes, free money when you come out of care, it doesn't have to be used on services that welsh people need obviously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    Central government sets the amount of money available for the budget in Wales with a pro rata amount for health set against the budget for the NHS in England. Please try a little harder.
    He's right. This power is devolved to the Assembly. You should try harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Wales NHS? Drakeford's Labour, has the magic money died?

    There was enough to lower speeds to 20mph and waste on the brynglas tunnel alternative then decide not to bother after all and leave Wales like a car park.

    Even after the strike, they won't be able to drive around in Wales, he'll probably give them bikes and add some dedicated ambulance cycle lanes.
    I presume you've never done a speed awareness course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    I joined the picket line outside Tredegar Ambiance Station today for 30 minutes with my old colleagues (I left the service in September). There appears to be good support from general public with many well wishers and constant beeping from passing motorists.
    Is that Drakefords responsibility to pay for the ambulance service in Wales?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Is that Drakefords responsibility to pay for the ambulance service in Wales?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    I joined the picket line outside Tredegar Ambiance Station today for 30 minutes with my old colleagues (I left the service in September). There appears to be good support from general public with many well wishers and constant beeping from passing motorists.
    I'm in Tred tomorrow. Is the Ambulance Station still at the bottom of Sirhowy hill?
    I'll give you a beep and a one handed Ayatollah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valleys caveman View Post
    I'm in Tred tomorrow. Is the Ambulance Station still at the bottom of Sirhowy hill?
    I'll give you a beep and a one handed Ayatollah.
    Yes it is. No strike tomorrow though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    Yes it is. No strike tomorrow though.

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    Levelling up has gone well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79blue View Post
    I joined the picket line outside Tredegar Ambiance Station today for 30 minutes with my old colleagues (I left the service in September). There appears to be good support from general public with many well wishers and constant beeping from passing motorists.
    If they give them more pay, how will they fund it?

    200 ambulances with better-paid drivers available instead of 300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    If they give them more pay, how will they fund it?

    200 ambulances with better-paid drivers available instead of 300?
    Ambulance driver is not a title we use any more. During the last ambulance strike the health secretary (Ken Clarke) called them glorified taxi drivers. They are not ambulance drivers they they are highly trained medical professionals.

    They are able for example to diagnose many conditions using diagnostic equipment, provide drugs to support people in critical condition, arrange direct admission to heart, stroke and medical admission units besides taking people to A&E.

    They can perform advanced procedures including endotracheal intubation. Perform chest decompression to reverse collapsed lungs, perform cricothyrotomy to open a blocked airway, insert needles into bones when IV access is unavailable. They can close wounds with sutures and insert urinary catheters.

    Remember they can do all this without the say so of a doctor and entirely on their own clinical judgement.

    Maybe you would prefer to have a St Johns volunteer arrive to aid you rather than a paramedic, to save you a bit of tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    If they give them more pay, how will they fund it?

    200 ambulances with better-paid drivers available instead of 300?
    As I said the other day, the £350 million per week for the NHS that Johnson faithfully promised must surely be kicking in soon......6 years after the big red Brexit bus was doing the rounds. Hope it’s backdated.

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