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    Max Watters

    After three sub appearances, Max Watters got his first League One start for Barnsley yesterday. He failed to score and was subbed on 64 minutes. Sounds familiar...

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    Re: Max Watters

    Can't work the lad out at all.
    He obviously had a decent record before coming here, now it seems he can't hit a barn door.
    Looks like his little purple patch was exactly that, and nothing more.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja View Post
    Can't work the lad out at all.
    He obviously had a decent record before coming here, now it seems he can't hit a barn door.
    Looks like his little purple patch was exactly that, and nothing more.
    League 2 isn’t as good as League One, or the Champ. It’s that simple.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    League 2 isn’t as good as League One, or the Champ. It’s that simple.
    Stating the obvious but can't disagree.
    Problem is, a substantial part of our squad is built up of such players.
    Watters, Whyte, Harris, Simpson, I'd say a few others at this point too, that are clearly not Championship standard.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja View Post
    Stating the obvious but can't disagree.
    Problem is, a substantial part of our squad is built up of such players.
    Watters, Whyte, Harris, Simpson, I'd say a few others at this point too, that are clearly not Championship standard.
    They aren’t. Please God we stay up and the embargo/Sala affair/fiasco is sorted out (choose which applies). Then the big issue is the next transfer window, is it a case of squaring the in contract players up and waving bye bye and the ones at the end of their contracts, ‘Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out’? It’s going to cost a few bob paying the dead wood off albeit nowhere near what it’s been previously before we bring in the next tribe of hopefuls. Yet again it’s going to be the most important transfer window since its inception. I doubt if Lamouchi will still be about, looks as though he’s got something lined up in June so another vital managerial appointment will be in the offing.

    Can’t say it isn’t interesting following the City, it’s like Fred Karno’s Army.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    League 2 isn’t as good as League One, or the Champ. It’s that simple.
    He got 5 in 11 for League 1 MK Dons last season.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Still think Max Watters has natural talent and a sharp footballing brain

    However his attitude and self discipline means he’ll never make it at a higher level. If he had Mark Harris work ethic he’d hang them in at Championship level.

    Instead he ambles around the pitch and gets himself overweight

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    Re: Max Watters

    Another player nowhere near good enough let's be honest, cannot remember him doing anything of note apart from getting subbed

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Another player nowhere near good enough let's be honest, cannot remember him doing anything of note apart from getting subbed
    You forgot his sulking and general lack of effort.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    He got 5 in 11 for League 1 MK Dons last season.
    Andy Campbell scored 7 in 10 games for us in 2001/02 when he first arrived from Boro. He followed that up with 7 goals in 40 appearances the season after and then was utterly useless in the Championship when we were promoted.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Andy Campbell scored 7 in 10 games for us in 2001/02 when he first arrived from Boro. He followed that up with 7 goals in 40 appearances the season after and then was utterly useless in the Championship when we were promoted.
    But he scored that goal against QPR. He's forever a club legend.

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    Re: Max Watters

    He's not the first striker we've had a punt on based on scoring at lower levels, Eoin Doyle and Omar Bogle come to mind, we even managed to turn Le Fondre shit who had scored up and down the leagues. Has never really seemed to work out for us, you wonder if that's down to our scouting or just the reality of how difficult it is to score goals at a higher level.

    I do think paradoxically that Watters is nowhere near Championship level but we played our best football early on with him in the side, maybe it would have been a bit different if one of those chances had gone in but he seemed to put less effort in with every chance he missed. As somebody said if you could combine the best parts of his game and Harris you'd have a decent striker, even if you still might not have that many goals.

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    Re: Max Watters

    There's more to the game than running and getting stuck in but his general movement around the pitch was a gentle amble.

    He at times got into good positions to be fair to him but then took so long to sort his feet out that the chance was gone or made substantially more difficult.

    Seemed to just lack any sort of belief in what he was doing.

    Unfortunately it's something that a number of our current players now also have.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Watters is at best a League One or Two player. He had a good spell, and as a result he got picked up by a bigger team - that's the way the game works. Now he's been found out, and has had to drop back down, and start again. He'll find his touch again; he's probably well short of confidence at the moment. It didn't work out at Cardiff, but you can say that about a lot of players. We take chances on cheap players, and so the success rate is always going to be a bit sketchy.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Andy Campbell scored 7 in 10 games for us in 2001/02 when he first arrived from Boro. He followed that up with 7 goals in 40 appearances the season after and then was utterly useless in the Championship when we were promoted.
    Great signing for what he did. Nothing else matters.

    He scored possibly the most important goal in the modern era.

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    Re: Max Watters

    Wasn’t his signing done by Dalman with no involvement from the manager ?
    I seem to recall Dalman stating that Cardiff should be trying to sign lower league players at smaller costs and take a gamble.
    This didn’t pay off

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    Re: Max Watters

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Andy Campbell scored 7 in 10 games for us in 2001/02 when he first arrived from Boro. He followed that up with 7 goals in 40 appearances the season after and then was utterly useless in the Championship when we were promoted.
    I have often wondered over how long a scoring streak do clubs judge a striker. I assume that clubs are so desperate that someone will always take a punt but what is the minimum number of games to genuinely tell if a striker is any good or not?

    Watters at MK Dons and Campbell during his loan here were relatively short and neither could maintain any sort of goal scoring consistency. And didn’t Zohore have a purple patch when he was banging them in which I’m sure contributed to West Brom amazingly forking out £8m for him, when we all knew the truth?

    I suppose the longer the run the greater the likelihood of another club making a bid.

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