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Thread: More Important than Cake IMHO.

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    More Important than Cake IMHO.

    We'll all be going round in rickshaws in a few years...

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...al-m4-26526216

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    We'll all be going round in rickshaws in a few years...

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...al-m4-26526216
    There's only one Earth you know. In my opinion the "cake" issue is far more important. Honesty, Integrity, Responsibility and Accountability are crucial aspects of sound governance.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    This just emphasises to me the stupidity of completely scrapping the tolls on the Severn Bridges. Take this quote from the BBC

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46539184

    "The UK Government has estimated that toll removal could see traffic rise by six million more vehicles a year which could increase congestion further along the M4 at Newport's infamous traffic bottleneck, the Brynglas Tunnels.

    The Welsh Government predicts toll removal will increase traffic by 20% over the M4 bridge - adding an extra 7% of traffic at the tunnels, a stretch already dealing with double its vehicle capacity".

    I said at the time that all they had to do was significantly reduce the toll from £6.70 for a car say to a nominal £2 and from £20 to say £5 for an HGV. Drivers would have would have been happy with that (I certainly would have when I was commuting to Bristol every day) and the revenue raised could have been used towards building the M4 relief road around Newport. This would ease traffic in the Brynglas area and hence simultaneously reduce air pollution there.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    The problem around Newport is not so much the tunnels (though they don't help), but the abundance of junctions in the area. There are six junctions around Newport, whereas at Cardiff, there are only three. You can't really use the M4 as a short cut around Cardiff, whereas in Newport that's exactly what a lot of people use it for. All this traffic either joining or leaving the carriageway tends to slow the rest down. The problems started when they added the extra junctions at Brynglas. It might have eased traffic in Newport itself, but it has added greatly to the motorway load.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    There's only one Earth you know. In my opinion the "cake" issue is far more important. Honesty, Integrity, Responsibility and Accountability are crucial aspects of sound governance.
    Says Bill Gates and his mates as trillions of dollars are sucked upwards into the pockets of the global elite.

    Serious question, how poor do you actually want to be?

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Says Bill Gates and his mates as trillions of dollars are sucked upwards into the pockets of the global elite.

    Serious question, how poor do you actually want to be?
    Like a church mouse.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Like a church mouse.
    I admire your optimism!

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    There's only one Earth you know. In my opinion the "cake" issue is far more important. Honesty, Integrity, Responsibility and Accountability are crucial aspects of sound governance.
    China burned through 900 million tons of coal last year. Russia [with China's assistance] cut down forests in Siberia for logging, equivalent to the size of Greater London. Tell them there's 'only one earth you know'

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    China burned through 900 million tons of coal last year. Russia [with China's assistance] cut down forests in Siberia for logging, equivalent to the size of Greater London. Tell them there's 'only one earth you know'
    I've reminded them too. Remember, there's only one Earth ....for all of us!

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    China burned through 900 million tons of coal last year. Russia [with China's assistance] cut down forests in Siberia for logging, equivalent to the size of Greater London. Tell them there's 'only one earth you know'
    As far as I know, Russia and China currently don't have any plans to implement the great reset (Agenda 30/50), which involves individual nations purposely shrinking their own country's energy supply, that by definition leads to reduced economic output. Western leaders are also following economic policy that that has been devised by the large multinational corporations, and other globalist think tanks. These outcomes are obviously going to be devastating for most of the population, but things couldn't be any better for those who are sitting at the top of the food chain.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I've reminded them too. Remember, there's only one Earth ....for all of us!
    Sometimes a little perspective is required!

    YAH2.jpg

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Sometimes a little perspective is required!

    YAH2.jpg
    True but we haven't found any extraterrestrial life forms yet and the prospect of Terra Forming any other planet is not on the immediate horizon. I think it far more prudent to start growing up and make efforts to protect our own backyard in the meantime.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    True but we haven't found any extraterrestrial life forms yet and the prospect of Terra Forming any other planet is not on the immediate horizon. I think it far more prudent to start growing up and make efforts to protect our own backyard in the meantime.
    Isn't it a bit strange to think that anything people do will make even a slight difference to the universe?

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Isn't it a bit strange to think that anything people do will make even a slight difference to the universe?
    No, quite the contrary in fact, particularly if one indulges in solipsism.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Says Bill Gates and his mates as trillions of dollars are sucked upwards into the pockets of the global elite.

    Serious question, how poor do you actually want to be?
    ahh come on...it's for the people to stand up and stand side by side with the politicians that already have these fantastic attributes

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    No, quite the contrary in fact, particularly if one indulges in solipsism.
    The earth has never blinked, no matter what has been thrown at it throughout it's long and storied history. On the other hand, if you want to introduce a new economic system that restricts peoples movement and makes them poorer, then climate would become a favoured weapon of choice.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The earth has never blinked, no matter what has been thrown at it throughout it's long and storied history. On the other hand, if you want to introduce a new economic system that restricts peoples movement and makes them poorer, then climate would become a favoured weapon of choice.
    The Earth has never blinked because it doesn't have eyes.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    The Earth has never blinked because it doesn't have eyes.
    You can give it some eyes if you are a good enough story teller.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You can give it some eyes if you are a good enough story teller.
    We are it's eyes and ears.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    We are it's eyes and ears.
    The good thing is we are on a timeline, so we will find out the truth eventually, but it may be too late by then.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The good thing is we are on a timeline, so we will find out the truth eventually, but it may be too late by then.
    There is no timeline. Everything is eternal.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    There is no timeline. Everything is eternal.
    Only in fairy tales, remember that.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Only in fairy tales, remember that.
    No that's what The Elite want you to think. Don't believe a word of it.

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    No that's what The Elite want you to think. Don't believe a word of it.
    The fairy tales go back thousands of years

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    Re: More Important than Cake IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Sometimes a little perspective is required!

    YAH2.jpg
    I thought we were in a firmament

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