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I'd be fuming but I'd also be fuming at our players for getting within 5 yards but rather than tackle hold their hands out, then screaming in the refs face like he had a choice one he didn't give the foul. I'm also not a fan of the knock the ball out when someone is knocked. Other than an Erikson type incident where the speed which treatment is received really matters just wait a a minute until there's a break in play. May stop players pretending they are hurt.
I didn't see any England fans complaining two days ago when Bairstow tried exactly the same thing he got dismissed for today. If he was more competent and hit the wickets they'd all be patting him on the back.
I didn't watch the Bairstow incident live,but caught up with it on TMS throughout the afternoon (whilst watching Glamorgan capitulate again).
The more I watch it, the more I think it's sloppy by Bairstow. Alex Carey released the ball immediately- he didn't walk giving the impression that he also thought it was over - he was still playing the delivery to a conclusion.
Spirit of the game, yes potentially Cummings could have considered withdrawing the appeal, but this is the Ashes, and its hard to conclude that the Aussies did anything wrong.
One is at the end of the over, after Bairstow has already marked his ground. The other is because Marnus walks half way down the wicket after every shot. Apart from that, they’re identical.
It all stems from the fact umpires often don’t call over now. They’d started walking to square and standing.
Laughable they think Glamorgan would continue to be a county side. Why would the ECB fund a county they don’t benefit from and where it is an open secret the ECB want to cut down on the number of counties?
Our best players won’t be allowed to play county cricket unless they’re classed as an overseas, and most tournaments happen during our summer. Someone would have to plug millions of pounds of lost funding. The “international tournaments” they speak of bring in peanuts. Ireland have played 7 tests since they were awarded test status. The whole thing is crap, if I'm honest and the ICC is worse than FIFA. Wales can’t play a qualifier for years, they’d have to get promoted through various leagues to get a sniff at playing Ireland or Scotland.
I don't really see the difference. The fundamental point is 'was the ball dead' . It's not up to bairstow to decide when the end of the over comes, that's up to the umpire. would like to wager that if bairstow hadn't tried to run out Marnus, Carey never would have got the idea
Let’s get this straight, it was the correct decision however given the fact that a Bairstow dismissal would have exposed the tail on a last day of the match , given the circumstances, the Aussies were wrong.
Considering they released a Netflix documentary trying to repair the damage of sandpaper gate , then I would have expected a different outcome with this team.
Clearly I was wrong.
It’s got nothing to do with the tail, or the winning, it’s a wanker’s trick. Stokes said he would have withdrawn the appeal and I have no doubt he would have given he asked the umpires to take 4 runs off England’s total in the World Cup final.
The convicts are so upset about the stick they’re getting because they know it is justified. It is lower than Mankadding.
I’ve kept wicket since I was 11 years old and I’m just approaching 60 and in all that time I would never have considered doing what Carey did, but it was perfectly legal to do so.
I have thrown down the stumps while standing back many a time when the batsman was batting outside his crease and was in the habit of not returning to his crease after each delivery. But Bairstow was batting in his crease and after each delivery he checked that he was behind the crease before wandering off. As some commentators have said his thought process was dozy, but the dismissal certainly leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
I seem to remember Alvin Kallicharan being given out against England many years ago in similar circumstances off the last ball of the days play, but England withdrew the appeal overnight.
I think back in those days there was much more of an obsession amongst England selectors to pick players with the proper "textbook" technique, rather than someone more unconventional but effective. Test matches were seen as the ultimate examination of a player's technique and the best way to succeed was to play the textbook way. Hence certain players got so many chances.
that seems a lot less of a consideration these days.
https://youtu.be/qBSgfZzbpPM
This was more out in my mind as Kalicharan didn’t make any effort to return to his crease which would be the sensible thing to do but I fully agree with England withdrawing their appeal…eventually!!