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[NYCBlue]

That's hilarious. They always try to make people criticising the status quo look like hypocrites with such weak arguments.

I've been called jealous of the rich on here, I explained I'm doing alright and then they said I'm a champagne socialist. I then ask for the exact amount of money I should have before I can criticise wealth inequality and they can never answer.

[splott parker]

That's hilarious. They always try to make people criticising the status quo look like hypocrites with such weak arguments.

I've been called jealous of the rich on here, I explained I'm doing alright and then they said I'm a champagne socialist. I then ask for the exact amount of money I should have before I can criticise wealth inequality and they can never answer.

C’mon you know the score in the UK, the mega rich milk the revenue system, make obscene millions (or even billions) hand over fist yet promote ‘shock,horror’ should the working class ask for a few bob more. The sad thing is a lot of the working class lap up their shite, they’ll tell you that they know a train driver who’s on a grand a week, I say, fair play to them, shows what having a strong union fighting for you can achieve. I don’t know anyone who’d refuse a high pay rise but the right wing media demonise it and the same folk agree

[Canton Kev]

Thought you hated people on benefits wasting tax payers money LoM?

[Dorcus]

No mate you are … seriously

Coming from zombie like you I take that as a compliment

[TWGL1]

Coming from zombie like you I take that as a compliment

Zombie , oh my sides

[Dave Blue]

You can do what you want with your money and good luck to you. You should show other people the same courtesy but that's what you fail to do; anyone who views anything remotely differently is labelled as something varying from Tory to Fascist (on the rare days you can distinguish between the two).

You've said on here before you are pretty wealthy, and again, good luck to you. That does however leave you open to claims of hypocrisy because you could give that wealth away to help others, as that's what you want others to do

You could also have a bit more humility about people less well off who view things differently, but again, you never do, you look firmly down your nose at them and make no attempt to understand their position. This is pretty common on the left nowadays and it's why many left wing parties have lost a lot of the working class vote. Paul Embery wrote a pretty good book on it

I would be fascinated to know what right wing parties offer the working class.

[JamesWales]

I would be fascinated to know what right wing parties offer the working class.

That's up to voters to decide, but off the top of my head in the last few years;

1 - respected how the working class voted on Brexit and committed to enacting the result

2 - record increase in NHS spending

3 - highest rise in the minimum wage by some distance

4 - Generally more aligned in respect of views on immigration

5 - Probably more aligned in terms of issues such as gender, identity politics, national pride etc etc

There are other arguments to counter that of course. But if you think 'left wing' parties are automatically aligned to the working class I'd say you are very mistaken. There is nothing working class about the guardian, or your average green councillor for example.

I know plenty of tradies doing better in the last few years than ever before for example.

What do the left offer that is generally better? We have a left wing govt in Wales, how are we any better?

[cyril evans awaydays]

I would be fascinated to know what right wing parties offer the working class.

Surely most of them offer a plunder of those on "comfortable " incomes. Millions of people who have nothing looking for a Messiah who promises to make their life better. Usually because some alien is taking away what little they have. These parties aka a charismatic leader, Johnson, Trump, etc, offer magic cures from people's misery. It takes time for the "working class" to suss the shysters.

Obviously Sunak is playing the I'm not Theresa May...sorry I'm not Boris Johnson....sorry I'm m not Liz Truss, forget the last 4 years card.

Might work I guess!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That's up to voters to decide, but off the top of my head in the last few years;

1 - respected how the working class voted on Brexit and committed to enacting the result

2 - record increase in NHS spending

3 - highest rise in the minimum wage by some distance

4 - Generally more aligned in respect of views on immigration

5 - Probably more aligned in terms of issues such as gender, identity politics, national pride etc etc

There are other arguments to counter that of course. But if you think 'left wing' parties are automatically aligned to the working class I'd say you are very mistaken. There is nothing working class about the guardian, or your average green councillor for example.

I know plenty of tradies doing better in the last few years than ever before for example.

What do the left offer that is generally better? We have a left wing govt in Wales, how are we any better?

This is bollocks

The conservatives force fed the country the idea of leaving Europe and if they could would have taken people to the voting booth

Respected how the working class voted ff sake

[jon1959]

You grew up with **** all, said as much plenty of times. Couldn't afford to heat your house, although luckily for you (and Me) there was social housing (A Socialist concept) Never perfect but saved the likes of you and me from slum landlords, a thing that we're going back to today. If it wasn't for socialism, you'd have probably been thieving turnips from farmers fields to survive, and Charlies ancestors would have had no problem shooting you or setting the dogs on you. Know your History.

[JamesWales]

This is bollocks

The conservatives force fed the country the idea of leaving Europe and if they could would have taken people to the voting booth

Respected how the working class voted ff sake

Unfortunately for you, it isn't bollocks. It's true.

The PM and deputy at the time (both Tories) were passionate advocates for Remain as well, so your argument really doesn't stack up any level.

Like it or not the working class largely voted leave. The Tories generally respected that, Labour generally didn't. And that's largely why the red ones lost in 2019.

You may not like it, but it's true. Now we've left, great swathes of seats are wide open again and many will very likely go to Labour.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Unfortunately for you, it isn't bollocks. It's true.

The PM and deputy at the time (both Tories) were passionate advocates for Remain as well, so your argument really doesn't stack up any level.

Like it or not the working class largely voted leave. The Tories generally respected that, Labour generally didn't. And that's largely why the red ones lost in 2019.

You may not like it, but it's true. Now we've left, great swathes of seats are wide open again and many will very likely go to Labour.

Bollocks

[TWGL1]

Bollocks

Don’t think so

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/...rendum/results

62% of Blaenau Gwent voted out ( one of the poorest LA areas )

Tap on the map.

[Wash DC Blue]

You can do what you want with your money and good luck to you. You should show other people the same courtesy but that's what you fail to do; anyone who views anything remotely differently is labelled as something varying from Tory to Fascist (on the rare days you can distinguish between the two).

You've said on here before you are pretty wealthy, and again, good luck to you. That does however leave you open to claims of hypocrisy because you could give that wealth away to help others, as that's what you want others to do

You could also have a bit more humility about people less well off who view things differently, but again, you never do, you look firmly down your nose at them and make no attempt to understand their position. This is pretty common on the left nowadays and it's why many left wing parties have lost a lot of the working class vote. Paul Embery wrote a pretty good book on it

I really like or liked Paul Embery…as I’ve not really bothered looking into what he has to say about things nowadays.

“Lexit” is something that a sizable amount of the left have failed to wrap their heads around.

The barbs fired to this day at working class left leaning voters for the Brexit decisions by “socialist remainers” sickens me as does
the scorn that the likes of Emily Thornberry cast over “White Van Man”.

C2DE’s are viewed the same by middle class “socialists” as they are by Tory’s IMO.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Don’t think so

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/...rendum/results

62% of Blaenau Gwent voted out ( one of the poorest LA areas )

Tap on the map.

I think you misunderstand

There is no doubt that working class people in areas that benefitted from European aid voted to leave

The idea that the Tories respected that view is ridiculous as the vast majority of tory voters and tory mps were and are anti Europe

[+ the native hipster]

You grew up with **** all, said as much plenty of times. Couldn't afford to heat your house, although luckily for you (and Me) there was social housing (A Socialist concept) Never perfect but saved the likes of you and me from slum landlords, a thing that we're going back to today. If it wasn't for socialism, you'd have probably been thieving turnips from farmers fields to survive, and Charlies ancestors would have had no problem shooting you or setting the dogs on you. Know your History.

my extended family has built and run social housing for over 70yrs they are in no way 'socialists' and to the best of my knowledge have never shot anyone for stealing turnips,

[the other bob wilson]

Yep, makes you feel proud doesn’t it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65515769

[TWGL1]

Yep, makes you feel proud doesn’t it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65515769

What’s your thoughts on this

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2880KY

[the other bob wilson]

What’s your thoughts on this

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2880KY

Mr one subject poster strikes again! I think they were/are nutters. but didn't have a problem with them protesting.

[TWGL1]

Mr one subject poster strikes again! I think they were/are nutters. but didn't have a problem with them protesting.

Not at all and clearly they were all fine after two weeks

[the other bob wilson]

Not at all and clearly they were all fine after two weeks

[Dorcus]

Yep, makes you feel proud doesn’t it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65515769

It makes any decent person weep to see just how badly people who do not share establishment views are treated in this country.

[life on mars]

Watched it for a good few hours intrigued by the regalia and what steps are taken to apply the sucession .

Loved it the crowning moment is quite something, Charles looked terrified .

All through it I thought what if he wanted the toilet as he is of that age where down below has a mind of its own and is effected ny stress , lol .

[Fatty Foggon]

All through it I thought what if he wanted the toilet as he is of that age where down below has a mind of its own and is effected ny stress , lol .

Yeah but he was sitting on the throne, so to speak.

[Dorcus]

Yeah but he was sitting on the throne, so to speak.

No doubt he had Sir Peregrine Crapper the Turd, the Royal Arselicker, underneath in case of emergency.