Lamouchi gone

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Why are you obsessed with trying to prove a point that nobody has even argued?

I said we were shocking in our last 2 performances and in our last 4 home performances. We were. That's not saying Lamouchi was shocking.

You saying that we were shocking under lamouchi .....is being used here with regard to him as a manager .....that being ...his team were shocking ......thus he's a shocking manager

What other conclusion is there ?

[Bobby Dandruff]

According to WOL

:-/

All bickering aside, does anyone think that the club will appoint a manager who is better than Lamouchi, whatever you think of him?

On the evidence of the last few years I have almost zero confidence that they will and fully expect another cheap, uninspiring, unimaginative appointment who with enthuse absolutely no one including the players.

I really hope that I’m wrong but nearly all of the recent evidence suggests otherwise.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

All bickering aside, does anyone think that the club will appoint a manager who is better than Lamouchi, whatever you think of him?

On the evidence of the last few years I have almost zero confidence that they will and fully expect another cheap, uninspiring, unimaginative appointment who with enthuse absolutely no one including the players.

I really hope that I’m wrong but nearly all of the recent evidence suggests otherwise.

I'll tilt that on its head a bit - will the club appoint a manager better than Hudson? Statistically, there's little to choose between them.

[Bobby Dandruff]

I'll tilt that on its head a bit - will the club appoint a manager better than Hudson? Statistically, there's little to choose between them.

Yeah I see that.

However, for some reason that I can’t put my finger on Lamouchi gave me some form of hope that I last remember experiencing when Warnock was appointed.

Pretty much every other managerial appointment since Malky, bar the two mentioned above, has left me utterly indifferent, and that is being charitable. (I’d never even heard of Slade before)

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Yeah I see that.

However, for some reason that I can’t put my finger on Lamouchi gave me some form of hope that I last remember experiencing when Warnock was appointed.

Pretty much every other managerial appointment since Malky, bar the two mentioned above, has left me utterly indifferent, and that is being charitable. (I’d never even heard of Slade before)

Sabri never went on a 9 game winless run...

Hudson was a dreadful manager.

[the other bob wilson]

All the pre noise from Dalman and Lamouchi indicated that there the club and manager wanted to do a deal. That's why I'm deeply sceptical when they said money was not discussed. I can't help thinking that's the reason the situation broke down

It would seem that way wouldn’t it. One of the reasons I’ve a bit more sympathy for Morison than many is that Tan and the hierarchy of the club expected a top six challenge and a complete change of playing style on the back of a budget which was not tiny, but was, reportedly, in the lowest quarter of the Championship when it came to wages. We really do need more realism in the Boardroom if our budget is to be reduced further.

[The Lone Gunman]

All the pre noise from Dalman and Lamouchi indicated that there the club and manager wanted to do a deal. That's why I'm deeply sceptical when they said money was not discussed. I can't help thinking that's the reason the situation broke down

You may be correct. However, Tan is something of an imponderable. He didn’t sack Morison or Hudson over money. My belief is that, like the two managers who went before him, Lamouchi was binned because the team’s performances didn’t match Tan’s expectations while under his guidance.

Whether those expectations were realistic or not is open to debate, but I think that’s what’s happened. I reckon Tan believed Lamouchi would do better than he actually did, and therefore called it a day. There’s every chance I’m wrong and it was down to money, but that’s my gut feeling.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

You may be correct. However, Tan is something of an imponderable. He didn’t sack Morison or Hudson over money. My belief is that, like the two managers who went before him, Lamouchi was binned because the team’s performances didn’t match Tan’s expectations while under his guidance.

Whether those expectations were realistic or not is open to debate, but I think that’s what’s happened. I reckon Tan believed Lamouchi would do better than he actually did, and therefore called it a day. There’s every chance I’m wrong and it was down to money, but that’s my gut feeling.

Interesting point. Didn't Dalman claim last season that we could finish in the top 6? Whether that was also the words of Vincent Tan, who knows, but if the chair and owner thought the playing personnel of last season was much better than a 21st place finish, they're a pair of imbeciles.

[bigjoe]

It would seem that way wouldn’t it. One of the reasons I’ve a bit more sympathy for Morison than many is that Tan and the hierarchy of the club expected a top six challenge and a complete change of playing style on the back of a budget which was not tiny, but was, reportedly, in the lowest quarter of the Championship when it came to wages. We really do need more realism in the Boardroom if our budget is to be reduced further.

Steve Moneyball Morison and his dossiers sold Tan a dream

[Nobody's Rep]

Contrary to what you seem to believe, Vincent Tan is not 'the club'. He just owns it. For now.

As I recall, the Chairman seemed enthusiastic about the prospect of Lamouchi staying. When asked recently if the manager would be staying, he said: "I think so. I have no reason to believe he has different thoughts than us."

The problem for Dalman is that, once again, it seems 'us' didn't include Tan. The Chairman and the owner rarely seem to be on the same page these days, which should be a concern to any City fan.

Steve Moneyball Morison and his dossiers sold Tan a dream

Well the other forum board, if they are to be believed, have had three names given to them one of which is Morison!!

[Rjk]

Well the other forum board, if they are to be believed, have had three names given to them one of which is Morison!!

that would be hilarious tbf

[The Hooded Claw]

Is it possible that Lamouchi had other irons in the fire, though? Just because the club say that they aren’t going forward with him, doesn’t necessarily make it so.
We can’t believe a word they say these days.

[Father Dougal]

You may be correct. However, Tan is something of an imponderable. He didn’t sack Morison or Hudson over money. My belief is that, like the two managers who went before him, Lamouchi was binned because the team’s performances didn’t match Tan’s expectations while under his guidance.

Whether those expectations were realistic or not is open to debate, but I think that’s what’s happened. I reckon Tan believed Lamouchi would do better than he actually did, and therefore called it a day. There’s every chance I’m wrong and it was down to money, but that’s my gut feeling.

And if tan did think that there is an argument for saying that's fair enough as everyone knows so little difference in records between sabri hudson and morison.

However the difficulty is its 17th May today. Championship safety was mathematically assured on the 29th April. Why such a delay? That's what makes me think at least some talks must have been had.

[Hilts]

Well the other forum board, if they are to be believed, have had three names given to them one of which is Morison!!

Morison.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Interesting point. Didn't Dalman claim last season that we could finish in the top 6? Whether that was also the words of Vincent Tan, who knows, but if the chair and owner thought the playing personnel of last season was much better than a 21st place finish, they're a pair of imbeciles.

Tan said it this season too https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-city-25469143

[Nobody's Rep]

Morison.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But they say the info is from one contact in the club about one of the names and one from the another club who is employing one of the other names and then there is the third one they list as being the 3 names that are being spoken to - what's not to believe

Cynics everywhere 🙄

[the other bob wilson]

Overtaken by events it seems.

https://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

[ivorall]

According to WOL

:-/

Lamouchi is a decent manager dealing with loads of cast-off players In his time at Nottingham Forest he did a Decent job and Kept them high with a promotion chance THEN there was a parting with Copper MAN taking over
I'm done with this merry-go-round.

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What has Tan done?

[Harry Lime]

You may be correct. However, Tan is something of an imponderable. He didn’t sack Morison or Hudson over money. My belief is that, like the two managers who went before him, Lamouchi was binned because the team’s performances didn’t match Tan’s expectations while under his guidance.

Whether those expectations were realistic or not is open to debate, but I think that’s what’s happened. I reckon Tan believed Lamouchi would do better than he actually did, and therefore called it a day. There’s every chance I’m wrong and it was down to money, but that’s my gut feeling.

Both of us maybe right. Over a decade in the game and he's learned nothing

[LeningradCowboy]

It would seem that way wouldn’t it. One of the reasons I’ve a bit more sympathy for Morison than many is that Tan and the hierarchy of the club expected a top six challenge and a complete change of playing style on the back of a budget which was not tiny, but was, reportedly, in the lowest quarter of the Championship when it came to wages. We really do need more realism in the Boardroom if our budget is to be reduced further.

I struggle to believe that considering the number of players in our first-team squad.

[North Cardiff Blue]

According to WOL

:-/

Please take Tan with him ffs

[North Cardiff Blue]

You may be correct. However, Tan is something of an imponderable. He didn’t sack Morison or Hudson over money. My belief is that, like the two managers who went before him, Lamouchi was binned because the team’s performances didn’t match Tan’s expectations while under his guidance.

Whether those expectations were realistic or not is open to debate, but I think that’s what’s happened. I reckon Tan believed Lamouchi would do better than he actually did, and therefore called it a day. There’s every chance I’m wrong and it was down to money, but that’s my gut feeling.

That makes perfect sense, that's my take on it, only one problem he doesn't have a clue!

[North Cardiff Blue]

Lamouchi is a decent manager dealing with loads of cast-off players In his time at Nottingham Forest he did a Decent job and Kept them high with a promotion chance THEN there was a parting with Copper MAN taking over
I'm done with this merry-go-round.

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What has Tan done?

Lost the plot completely if he's given it to Bamba after all his other gambles with giving the Manager job to coaches that just feck it up.

[Whisperer]

Well the other forum board, if they are to be believed, have had three names given to them one of which is Morison!!

Didn't AA say Lamouchi got the gig only a few days back? 🤣

[The Lone Gunman]

Interesting point. Didn't Dalman claim last season that we could finish in the top 6?

Don't recall him saying that. On the contrary, when he did that podcast at the start of last season, the host suggested that a mid-table finish would be a successful season given the major overhaul the squad had been given. Dalman said he agreed, but added that he was in a minority of one in City's boardroom.

That comment stood out to me at the time as it was another clear indication that the chairman and the owner are not on the same page these days.