Put your bucket hats back in the wardrobe.

[Hilts]

We wont sack Page now but he should never have been appointed.


I think people are overestimating the ability of some of our players.

Saying that the performances of our better players like Johnson , Ampadu were well below par. Unless we are seriously overestimating them as well.

If we did remove Page I think we should give Cameron Toshack an opportunity.

[goats]

Yip - you can stick your fkn cymru up your ass.

Cymru curse….that can go pronto

[The Lone Gunman]

I think people are overestimating the ability of some of our players.

That’s possible, but there’s no denying the side have become a tactical shambles under Page. While some of the players may well be overrated, the current set-up looks hopelessly disorganised.

[Hilts]

That’s possible, but there’s no denying the side have become a tactical shambles under Page. While some of the players may well be overrated, the current set-up looks hopelessly disorganised.

I dont disagree. We were cut apart by Armenia easily , 2 goals with players caught in possession , balls too easily going in the box. Even if we say Wales players are mostly good Championship players that should have been more than enough to beat Armenia let alone ship 4 and it could easily have been a couple more.

I dont think the Welsh FA will remove him though.

[Father Dougal]

We wont sack Page now but he should never have been appointed.


I think people are overestimating the ability of some of our players.

Saying that the performances of our better players like Johnson , Ampadu were well below par. Unless we are seriously overestimating them as well.

If we did remove Page I think we should give Cameron Toshack an opportunity.

Nah not having that. Theres no way this wales squad should be outplayed by armenia like that. For me there was more than enough ability in that starting team to match armenia.

Or are we really saying the armenians were of greater individual ability which is why we lost?

No way. We lost because we have been poor for a few years now and page just has to go.

[Jordi Culé]

We wont sack Page now but he should never have been appointed.


I think people are overestimating the ability of some of our players.

Saying that the performances of our better players like Johnson , Ampadu were well below par. Unless we are seriously overestimating them as well.

If we did remove Page I think we should give Cameron Toshack an opportunity.

The set up of the team, the tactics and game management was a shambles.

Whether or not players are being overestimated or off the pace isn't the real problem here. Page is.

He was far too slow to change a game in Euro 2020/21 against Denmark and still reacts to what's going on in the game as if he's in an induced coma.

Never too bothered about Wales results as we all remember being really shiit but that performance was shocking.

Page saying its a "reality check..." for him I'm assuming? A result like last night has been in the offing since his tenure began.

He's either buying time or deluded.

[the other bob wilson]

We wont sack Page now but he should never have been appointed.


I think people are overestimating the ability of some of our players.

Saying that the performances of our better players like Johnson , Ampadu were well below par. Unless we are seriously overestimating them as well.

If we did remove Page I think we should give Cameron Toshack an opportunity.

I think Page did okay first up, but he and his team have been struggling for a while now and that four year contract felt like a mistake at the time.

Cameron Toshack seems a decent shout, Steve Cooper wouldn't take the job and I'm not sure about Nathan Jones as an international manager, but I can see us soldiering on with Page because of how much compensation we'd have to pay him if he was sacked.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That’s possible, but there’s no denying the side have become a tactical shambles under Page. While some of the players may well be overrated, the current set-up looks hopelessly disorganised.

Never interested in Wales in the past

Now a top pundit

Who would have thought it eh ?

[Carl Dale's Mole]

A bunch of polls going around on Twitter today. One saying 83% want Page out. Another saying 96% Page out.

[blue matt]

lets be honest, Page and Cookie both fell on their feet, they had a good team who would run through a brick wall for each other, oh and they had a certain Mr Bale

I always liked Pagey, he was proud of being asked to do the job, it brought into the current proud welsh thing that the players were all about, it worked at the time, but he isnt that tactically aware, when you take off Rambo ( a potential match winner ) when chasing the game and Bring on Morrell you know things aren't going well

But having said that, is the pool of players now getting back to being average at best, Morrell, Bradshaw, Broadhead all lower league players, we were lucky to have enjoyed that " golden generation "

Oh and its been mentioned, I bet 90% plus at the ground were English speaking Welsh supporters, its fine to speak English and still be a proud Welshie in my eyes, the FAW have certainly pushed the welsh speaking thing to the extreme, maybe its Time to ease of on that push for a while, as if results dont go our way, people will be looking for any old excuse to not feel part of it and leave it behind

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

lets be honest, Page and Cookie both fell on their feet, they had a good team who would run through a brick wall for each other, oh and they had a certain Mr Bale

I always liked Pagey, he was proud of being asked to do the job, it brought into the current proud welsh thing that the players were all about, it worked at the time, but he isnt that tactically aware, when you take off Rambo ( a potential match winner ) when chasing the game and Bring on Morrell you know things aren't going well

But having said that, is the pool of players now getting back to being average at best, Morrell, Bradshaw, Broadhead all lower league players, we were lucky to have enjoyed that " golden generation "

Oh and its been mentioned, I bet 90% plus at the ground were English speaking Welsh supporters, its fine to speak English and still be a proud Welshie in my eyes, the FAW have certainly pushed the welsh speaking thing to the extreme, maybe its Time to ease of on that push for a while, as if results dont go our way, people will be looking for any old excuse to not feel part of it and leave it behind

Page should be relieved of his duties now

But the fact as you infer is that the players are average and expectation levels must lessen

Nothing wrong with that

[Jordi Culé]

lets be honest, Page and Cookie both fell on their feet, they had a good team who would run through a brick wall for each other, oh and they had a certain Mr Bale

I always liked Pagey, he was proud of being asked to do the job, it brought into the current proud welsh thing that the players were all about, it worked at the time, but he isnt that tactically aware, when you take off Rambo ( a potential match winner ) when chasing the game and Bring on Morrell you know things aren't going well

But having said that, is the pool of players now getting back to being average at best, Morrell, Bradshaw, Broadhead all lower league players, we were lucky to have enjoyed that " golden generation "

Oh and its been mentioned, I bet 90% plus at the ground were English speaking Welsh supporters, its fine to speak English and still be a proud Welshie in my eyes, the FAW have certainly pushed the welsh speaking thing to the extreme, maybe its Time to ease of on that push for a while, as if results dont go our way, people will be looking for any old excuse to not feel part of it and leave it behind

What's pushing the 'Welsh' thing in your eyes?

Bilingualism, Yma O Hyd or referring to Wales as Cymru?

I don't think the Welsh FA are endorsing and supporting burning holiday homes?

Funnily enough City fans did once upon a time.

[goats]

What's pushing the 'Welsh' thing in your eyes?

Bilingualism, Yma O Hyd or referring to Wales as Cymru?

I don't think the Welsh FA are endorsing and supporting burning holiday homes?

Funnily enough City fans did once upon a time.

Anything that is successful in Wales they will jump on and try and force more welshness on it…..

[PontBlue]

I'm an English only speaking Welshie and have at no point felt I have been pushed to learn or speak Welsh.

To counter your final point wouldn't easing back on their Welsh language output alienate the Welsh speakers amongst our fanbase? Surely we should be encouraging everyone born or living here to feel an affinity with our national team.

[Dave Blue]

So Welsh signage let in 4 goals last night?

[City123]

What's pushing the 'Welsh' thing in your eyes?

Bilingualism, Yma O Hyd or referring to Wales as Cymru?

I don't think the Welsh FA are endorsing and supporting burning holiday homes?

Funnily enough City fans did once upon a time.

People dragging up marketing just so they can have a go at the Welsh language is arguably more embarrassing than last night's display

We were shocking last night, but that has nothing to do with going by Cymru

[City123]

Anything that is successful in Wales they will jump on and try and force more welshness on it…..

Who's "they"? And how dare "they" try and "force" Welshness onto a team representing Wales

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

The best players .....play together

Didn't that used to be the FAW mantra ?

It used to be in Welsh, on the badge

I like that

And the together stronger thing

And yma o hyd .......I love listening to that , its inspirational

[RichardM]

Anything that is successful in Wales they will jump on and try and force more welshness on it…..

Can you give examples?

[City123]

The set up of the team, the tactics and game management was a shambles.

Whether or not players are being overestimated or off the pace isn't the real problem here. Page is.

He was far too slow to change a game in Euro 2020/21 against Denmark and still reacts to what's going on in the game as if he's in an induced coma.

Never too bothered about Wales results as we all remember being really shiit but that performance was shocking.

Page saying its a "reality check..." for him I'm assuming? A result like last night has been in the offing since his tenure began.

He's either buying time or deluded.

He isn't capable of changing things and that comment he made about a reality check is worrying

What sums him up for me is when we were ready to bring on Williams & Morrell but delayed for 6 minutes because Armenia had an attacking throw in, classic lower league stuff. We were of course 3-1 down by the time they came on

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I'm an English only speaking Welshie and have at no point felt I have been pushed to learn or speak Welsh.

To counter your final point wouldn't easing back on their Welsh language output alienate the Welsh speakers amongst our fanbase? Surely we should be encouraging everyone born or living here to feel an affinity with our national team.

Chris Mepham
Ethan Ampadu
Joe Morrell
Daniel James
Kieffer Moore
Brennan Johnson

[Dorcus]

So Welsh signage let in 4 goals last night?

How do you say "this way to the goal" in Welsh?

[BLUETIT]

How do you say "this way to the goal" in Welsh?

Shoot butt

[OurManFlint II]

People dragging up marketing just so they can have a go at the Welsh language is arguably more embarrassing than last night's display

We were shocking last night, but that has nothing to do with going by Cymru

It's madness. National teams, playing other national teams, to reach a tournament represented by lots of other national teams, with national anthems at the beginning of each game, in kits with the national flags on it is to nationalistic. Madness!

[goats]

Who's "they"? And how dare "they" try and "force" Welshness onto a team representing Wales

Can’t believe you don’t know who “they” are….ffs….we know who we are and where we are, we were ok as Wales…and we always will be