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Yeah but when are we gonna sign some players like?
Easy to say from Cowbridge eh.Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Interesting that the Rwandan govt have strongly criticised the decision? Bit of old school imperialist racism from these elderly Oxbridge judges perhaps?
What's where I currently live got to do with my views that this current govt are a bunch of chancers , propped up by the likes of you ?
No one is interested
The message board has ground to a halt
The decision that says that the UK shouldn't pay them over £100k a person to receive people ?
What's their problem?
How much time have you spent in Rwanda?
The judges concluded there was a real risk of harm coming to persons sent back to home countries
Rwanda is NOT safe enough
Two out of the three judges sided against the home Secretary
Yeah can't think why Rwanda would criticise a decision that stops them making an absolute mint from the UK taxpayer.
Bizarre policy, predictable outcome (to some of us).
Rwanda https://www.hrw.org/africa/rwanda
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/africa/east-africa-the-horn-and-great-lakes/rwanda/report-rwanda/
What do you suggest we do with them all sludge?
I hear Rwanda's nice.
Nigel Farage has tweeted that we should send them back to France. Little does he know that we used to be able to do that when we were a member of a thing called the European Union before some people came along and convinced enough of the population that we'd all be much better off not being a member. Perhaps he could do a bit of research on it if he's got a spare 5 minutes.
The military terrorist arm of the corrupt government ?
Are knocking off government opponents ?
I heard they were good lads ?
Mrs Bravermaun sten gen panzer said it was a safe place ?
I suggest we accept that illegal migration needs a lot more money spent on controlling it and even then it will remain a serious problem
Doesn't mean we should be happy with it
However what we shouldn't do is support a policy that sends people to their deaths
Would you agree ?
I have been watching GB news recently
Some right nut cases on that
It was
But now it isn't
Strange
You could always just answer the question
What would you - Prime Minister Sludge do with them ?
That does not mean spending money on stopping it - as they are already here.
What would you do with the ones already here -
things like :
1. Where would you house them ?
2. Would they have priority over existing people on Council house waiting lists ?
3. Would you allow them to work ?
4. Would you allow them to claim benefits ?
5. Would you offer them safe passage to another country ?
Stuff like that - away you go - fill ya boots - lets have them policies PM Sludge of Cowbridge Left
Spending more money .........which was my answer to the question is already on the table
That will reduce but not deal completely with the problem
And those questions above you have asked are all a YES from me and even then it's an ongoing issue
All these control our borders , close the ports is complete nonsense and just vote grabbing
Bauverman Gestapo is saying the British people want the boats stopped and that's what we are doing !
The government are hopeless and most people of reasonable mind want an all round approach to migration
With this lot you just get impossible targets to bribe people into voting for them
Maybe that's what you want ?
I've spent a lot of time in Rwanda and the organisation I work for has an office there.
It's a beautiful country with lovely people.
While the government takes two steps forwards with regards to infrastructure (social and transport etc), they take a giant leap backwards with regards to human rights, freedoms , democracy etc. its a very controlling and toxic environment.
I know people who have been taken by the Rwandan authorities and treated appallingly. I can't elaborate here.
The last time Rwanda accepted asylum seekers from other countries it was a disaster with many of the asylum seekers being mistreated. When they escaped, they were killed.
It is not an African utopia.
As for pipsters questions:
What would you do with the ones already here -
things like :
1. Where would you house them ? - firstly we need to process them quickly to make sure they are not staying in poor conditions paid for (over paid for) by the the public purse. Get them into work and filling the huge shortages we have. They can then pay rent and contribute in taxes. (some people wait 4 (FOUR) years before their claim is accepted or rejected). In terms of housing - this is a bigger issue and i am so disappointed with both main political parties for under investing in homes and also allowing landlords and corporations (many foreign) to buy up properties which could be available. Londongrad explains how so many properties in London are bought by foreign companies or oligarchs and remain empty. With the money allocated to sending people to Rwanda, that could easily be used to make 10000's of empty properties available and fix up the so many dilapidated properties in our cities.
2. Would they have priority over existing people on Council house waiting lists ?
See above - no they wouldn't and nor should they... get them into work and let them rent or buy like most others - with the caveat that local authorities get funding from central government to renovate available houses and make them available to everyone.
3. Would you allow them to work ?
Yes - why on earth would anyone NOT want them to work? That is mental. Work, pay tax, pay NI, fill the workforce shortages and save us a ton of money to house them for years while we process their claims... a no brainer.
4. Would you allow them to claim benefits ?
Allow them to work and let them be a full part of the system - paying TAX and NI and if they do fall out of work, then yes they should be able to claim benefits if they are legally allowed to work and live here.
5. Would you offer them safe passage to another country ?
If they wanted it and if they had links to another country... yes. Perhaps we could join some kind of union with our neighbours and negotiate a deal where we share the refugee /asylum population
Join a union where we join our neighbours with a strategic approach to migration ?
Like the er .....EU ?
I think 🤔 maybe stay as we are ?
Tough on the borders , tough on the causes of the borders !
register them in the system. Give them NI numbers, get them working paying taxes and contributing.
if there are no illegals then cash in hand jobs disappear. This in turn means wages rise for those who prepared to work in jobs where the employer operates PAYE.
its full of win.
Very interesting post - especially about the situation in Rwanda.
Your responses to the pipster questions are also spot on. No one claims the solutions are easy or cheap - but they are right, and much less expensive (or wasteful) than the alternatives that the current government is promoting as a sop to their base.
Well said sir, African Bluebird for PM.
Of course it's a sop
They are desperate for votes and a pull on the right wing flog em , send em back puppet strings is always worth a try
That Brauverman is a shocking neo con
Who votes for a nut case like her ?
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