Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.

[the other bob wilson]

Fascinating use of the word "cult" lately in this thread seeing as it is those using it who are the cultists.

I Googled the term modern definition of the word cult just now and this came up - it perfectly captures what I believe the word cult has come to mean in today's society;

"The term “cult” refers most often to a group of people with usually atypical beliefs living in relative isolation from the world."

Do the gifted crew on here believe that the Met Office is a member of the cult they refer to? I'd say m0st people would read something like this;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66304220

cast their minds back to what had just happened a year ago in the UK, look at what is happening in southern Europe currently (don't forget a leading member of the naysayers on here was telling everyone there was nothing to worry about there a few days ago ) and conclude that there may be something to this human induced climate change stuff after all.

[Wales-Bales]

Fascinating use of the word "cult" lately in this thread seeing as it is those using it who are the cultists.

I Googled the term modern definition of the word cult just now and this came up - it perfectly captures what I believe the word cult has come to mean in today's society;

"The term “cult” refers most often to a group of people with usually atypical beliefs living in relative isolation from the world."

Do the gifted crew on here believe that the Met Office is a member of the cult they refer to? I'd say m0st people would read something like this;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66304220

cast their minds back to what had just happened a year ago in the UK, look at what is happening in southern Europe currently (don't forget a leading member of the naysayers on here was telling everyone there was nothing to worry about there a few days ago ) and conclude that there may be something to this human induced climate change stuff after all.

Google is a cult training algorithm

[the other bob wilson]

Google is a cult training algorithm

Fiddling while Greece burns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66322608

[TWGL1]

Fiddling while Greece burns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66322608

Very small sample, but something that may be a concern, what’s the best solution going forward do you think ?

[TheGoose]

Fiddling while Greece burns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66322608

havent they come out and blamed arson?

[the other bob wilson]

havent they come out and blamed arson?

They did, and it seems that there was some arson, but I think it’s become too widespread now for it to be the case everywhere.

[jon1959]

havent they come out and blamed arson?

Some arson. Some spontaneous.

All bigger, longer lasting, and harder to control because of the extreme temperatures and baked dry soil and vegetation.

[Rjk]

Fascinating use of the word "cult" lately in this thread seeing as it is those using it who are the cultists.

I Googled the term modern definition of the word cult just now and this came up - it perfectly captures what I believe the word cult has come to mean in today's society;

"The term “cult” refers most often to a group of people with usually atypical beliefs living in relative isolation from the world."

Do the gifted crew on here believe that the Met Office is a member of the cult they refer to? I'd say m0st people would read something like this;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66304220

cast their minds back to what had just happened a year ago in the UK, look at what is happening in southern Europe currently (don't forget a leading member of the naysayers on here was telling everyone there was nothing to worry about there a few days ago ) and conclude that there may be something to this human induced climate change stuff after all.

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[Eric Cartman]

Fascinating use of the word "cult" lately in this thread seeing as it is those using it who are the cultists.

I Googled the term modern definition of the word cult just now and this came up - it perfectly captures what I believe the word cult has come to mean in today's society;

"The term “cult” refers most often to a group of people with usually atypical beliefs living in relative isolation from the world."

Do the gifted crew on here believe that the Met Office is a member of the cult they refer to? I'd say m0st people would read something like this;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66304220

cast their minds back to what had just happened a year ago in the UK, look at what is happening in southern Europe currently (don't forget a leading member of the naysayers on here was telling everyone there was nothing to worry about there a few days ago ) and conclude that there may be something to this human induced climate change stuff after all.

It's also baffling to me that you even need an apocalypse scenario to justify general improvement. The cultists will just get further entrenched as time goes on, that is their role, but even the general public were unwilling to go along with the idea that chucking shit into the atmosphere is something you shouldn't do if you don't actually need to.

We might reach a point in technological advancement where we need oil and gas for something that can't be done using anything else and the future of the planet/species depends on it. 'sorry we used all that on things we didn't need to' is going to seem pretty annoying.

[pipster]

According to someone that used to work at the at the Met (he's not aware of the ccmb expert panel) anyway - from what I can gather - the continental drift is much further south than usual - plus hot winds from Africa pushing up - and we get this melting point over the Med.
Im not denying / approving climate change etc - but from a weather perspective that is what has happened apparently.

Basically - it would have been hot - add some climate change temp increases and now it'd really F'ing hot.

UK represent apparently less than 1% of omissions - and have cut 40% from our figures from 15-20 years ago (said Radio 4 this morning) - so it's not us - it's US, China, India are the ones that need to put the f'ing house in order

[North Cardiff Blue]

According to someone that used to work at the at the Met (he's not aware of the ccmb expert panel) anyway - from what I can gather - the continental drift is much further south than usual - plus hot winds from Africa pushing up - and we get this melting point over the Med.
Im not denying / approving climate change etc - but from a weather perspective that is what has happened apparently.

Basically - it would have been hot - add some climate change temp increases and now it'd really F'ing hot.

UK represent apparently less than 1% of omissions - and have cut 40% from our figures from 15-20 years ago (said Radio 4 this morning) - so it's not us - it's US, China, India are the ones that need to put the f'ing house in order

Exactly while the UK governments are trying to price people out of cars and put the UK economy at a further disadvantage. If China, USA and Russia and the rest aren't making an effort it will have no noticeable impact at all.

I'm pro change, but it has to be Worldwide.

[North Cardiff Blue]

When is it coming to Cardiff?

[pipster]

ps North Cardiff Blue - We wont we having any sun. Because of Brexit we can now only get weather from Countries outside the EU like Norway. So at the moment we are having a Norwegian summer. Any sun we do get has to be given back to the EU weather commission currently being run by Lord Kinnock from his executive garden shed (he bought from Drakeflop) in Peterston Super Ely, where the great unelected lifetime politician will decide where it goes.

[Rjk]

ps North Cardiff Blue - We wont we having any sun. Because of Brexit we can now only get weather from Countries outside the EU like Norway. So at the moment we are having a Norwegian summer. Any sun we do get has to be given back to the EU weather commission currently being run by Lord Kinnock from his executive garden shed (he bought from Drakeflop) in Peterston Super Ely, where the great unelected lifetime politician will decide where it goes.

you may jest, but there was an article this week about the continued weakening of the gulf stream - with a prediction that it could "switch off" somewhere between 2025 and 2095 - i.e. it is possible that in a few as 18 months we could be seeing dramatically different winters in northern Europe - we wouldn't be talking about being a few degrees warmer or colder here or there either.

[pipster]

you may jest, but there was an article this week about the continued weakening of the gulf stream - with a prediction that it could "switch off" somewhere between 2025 and 2095 - i.e. it is possible that in a few as 18 months we could be seeing dramatically different winters in northern Europe - we wouldn't be talking about being a few degrees warmer or colder here or there either.

I read that article RJK.
Without the gulf stream we would have the same winters as southern Canada by all accounts as we are roughly on the same latitude - not something we want. If the gulf stream does move south - then we all have a serious change coming towards us.
Not that we can do anything about it - as long as we have the US, India, China et al pumping out CO2 then our destiny is mapped out for us.
Maybe we should all migrate to France or Spain and defacto join the EU again - or ironically go there and claim refugee status.

If you live by Sludge and others viewpoint on here - we would be given a job and a house and all infrastructure access we need - schools, healthcare etc - what is not to like?

[Rjk]

I read that article RJK.
Without the gulf stream we would have the same winters as southern Canada by all accounts as we are roughly on the same latitude - not something we want. If the gulf stream does move south - then we all have a serious change coming towards us.
Not that we can do anything about it - as long as we have the US, India, China et al pumping out CO2 then our destiny is mapped out for us.
Maybe we should all migrate to France or Spain and defacto join the EU again - or ironically go there and claim refugee status.

If you live by Sludge and others viewpoint on here - we would be given a job and a house and all infrastructure access we need - schools, healthcare etc - what is not to like?

almost all the population of Canada live further south than Britain I think, so we might even get the winters of the bits of Canada where nobody lives, because it is too cold.

[Heathblue]

According to someone that used to work at the at the Met (he's not aware of the ccmb expert panel) anyway - from what I can gather - the continental drift is much further south than usual - plus hot winds from Africa pushing up - and we get this melting point over the Med.
Im not denying / approving climate change etc - but from a weather perspective that is what has happened apparently.

Basically - it would have been hot - add some climate change temp increases and now it'd really F'ing hot.

UK represent apparently less than 1% of omissions - and have cut 40% from our figures from 15-20 years ago (said Radio 4 this morning) - so it's not us - it's US, China, India are the ones that need to put the f'ing house in order

TBH, I don't think that anyone thinks that the climate doesn't change it always has, the extreme left cannot accept the reason for change, can be anything other than John and Jane dough driving their 4 x 4 top of the range Ford Focus back and for to work with John Dough sneaking out in the car on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a bit of dogging.

[Rjk]

TBH, I don't think that anyone thinks that the climate doesn't change it always has, the extreme left cannot accept the reason for change, can be anything other than John and Jane dough driving their 4 x 4 top of the range Ford Focus back and for to work with John Dough sneaking out in the car on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a bit of dogging.

do you understand the reason that scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?

[Wales-Bales]

do you understand the reason that scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?

Why do the government funded scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?

[Rjk]

Why do the government funded scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?

do you not know? If so why are you convinced they are wrong?

on the question of funding, there has historically been very little money for climate science, and some very wealthy industries happy to fund climate denial. Many government policies to try to address climate change will have a retardant effect on the economy, so there is considerable pressure on politicians to ignore it also.

[Wales-Bales]

do you not know? If so why are you convinced they are wrong?

on the question of funding, there has historically been very little money for climate science, and some very wealthy industries happy to fund climate denial. Many government policies to try to address climate change will have a retardant effect on the economy, so there is considerable pressure on politicians to ignore it also.

Nice mantra, but it seems like you are trying to convince yourself more than anybody else

[jon1959]

TBH, I don't think that anyone thinks that the climate doesn't change it always has, the extreme left cannot accept the reason for change, can be anything other than John and Jane dough driving their 4 x 4 top of the range Ford Focus back and for to work with John Dough sneaking out in the car on Tuesdays and Thursdays for a bit of dogging.

[JamesWales]

This isn't to be taken as a comment on wider issues, but seriously, how shite is the weather here this summer?

I just checked and this 19c cloudy drizzle is here for the next 10 days at least

[jon1959]

This isn't to be taken as a comment on wider issues, but seriously, how shite is the weather here this summer?

I just checked and this 19c cloudy drizzle is here for the next 10 days at least

And the hottest June on record.

[Rjk]

And the hottest June on record.

and globally July is the hottest month ever recorded