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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We are one injury away from Jack Simpson starting, and god knows who can pass in CM if we lose Wintle. Ugbo is not prolific, we need another option.

    Allsop is OK, he’s not great but he was not the season we couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo last season.
    I’d rather a first choice keeper than a back up CB even if it meant Simpson starting. I’d be amazed if both aren’t signed though.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We are one injury away from Jack Simpson starting, and god knows who can pass in CM if we lose Wintle. Ugbo is not prolific, we need another option.

    Allsop is OK, he’s not great but he was not the season we couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo last season.
    Allsop is one of the best keepers in the League.

    If you want to be relegated he's your man he was very unlucky not to get a three-year treble last season, if it hadn't been for Reading and Wigan's points deductions he would have got that honor last season, and he only missed it by a point or two.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We are one injury away from Jack Simpson starting, and god knows who can pass in CM if we lose Wintle. Ugbo is not prolific, we need another option.

    Allsop is OK, he’s not great but he was not the season we couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo last season.
    I don't think he will start a game this season, they would reshuffle NG before contemplating that, and I'd try and move him on, they need a centre half too and I'm sure they will be looking for one also.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    If Carlsberg did pedantic.
    It’s pedantic to point out someone’s claim was hopelessly wide of the mark? Righto…

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by rich munn View Post
    TLG stands at the side with his bucket of cold water, just waiting for any sign of optimism to douse.
    It’s got nothing to do with optimism or otherwise. I’m merely pointing out that the bookies did not believe West Brom were a shoe-in last year as was claimed.

    They were well wide of the mark with their predictions last season. Burnley, who pissed the division, were ranked sixth in the pre-season betting. City were ranked 15th, so they got that badly wrong too.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    All keepers have the ability to pull off spectacular saves

    But it's the meat and drink playing from the back , distribution , organising the defence etc that breeds confidence that is vital

    And we don't have a goalkeeper in the two main incumbents who offer that

    So we need a new face and possibly two

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    A couple of weeks to go, and without 2 or 3 good signings, I think currently we're no stronger than last season. Does our manager know the Championship ? Has he underestimated it ? I hope not, but he doesn't half sound optimistic !

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    I’d rather a first choice keeper than a back up CB even if it meant Simpson starting. I’d be amazed if both aren’t signed though.
    I would be surprised if we sign a keeper

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    I would be surprised if we sign a keeper
    It leaves question marks over the manager for me if he can’t see it.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    It leaves question marks over the manager for me if he can’t see it.
    We have so many holes to fill. Allsop and Alnwick aren’t as bad as people make out on here. We cannot plug every gap, and we need to get people out. Alnwick and Allsop both have a contract, it isn’t that simple and we can only have 5 loans in a squad. Good keepers that can be signed for free don't grow on trees.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We have so many holes to fill. Allsop and Alnwick aren’t as bad as people make out on here. We cannot plug every gap, and we need to get people out. Alnwick and Allsop both have a contract, it isn’t that simple and we can only have 5 loans in a squad. Good keepers that can be signed for free don't grow on trees.

    Keepers and Strikers are the two most important positions on the pitch, if we had Kaba and a good keeper I would be feeling a lot more optimistic.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Keepers and Strikers are the two most important positions on the pitch, if we had Kaba and a good keeper I would be feeling a lot more optimistic.
    Keepers are not more important than centre halves, wingers or centre midfielders. That is absolute cobblers. Plenty of teams have won leagues with average keepers, nobody has won anything with a bang average core or with no goalscorers from all over the pitch.

    I would be amazed if they're trying to look for a keeper over those 3.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    It leaves question marks over the manager for me if he can’t see it.
    Too right sacked by Christmas.

    It's not only making saves that make a keeper so important it's instilling confidence in the defence like Marshall used to and commanding his area.

    A keeper is the number one priority.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Too right sacked by Christmas.

    It's not only making saves that make a keeper so important it's instilling confidence in the defence like Marshall used to and commanding his area.

    A keeper is the number one priority.
    Marshall was the most brilliant shot-stoppers but he certainly didn't command his area. My seat is behind one of the goals and he rarely left his line on crosses and corners.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Marshall was the most brilliant shot-stoppers but he certainly didn't command his area. My seat is behind one of the goals and he rarely left his line on crosses and corners.
    He was shouting and organising, he was respected and trusted, and he calmed the defence, they were not panicking and worried as to whether he would come and take the ball or not, I dispute that he never left his line also, that's certainly not how I remember him.

    When you have a good keeper, it's not always spectacular saves, because a good keeper has good angles and is rarely beaten, so sometimes you'll look back and say they had no real chances, that's because a good keeper will be in the right place at the right time narrow the angle and make it look easy, the same as a good Striker doing the opposite.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    It leaves question marks over the manager for me if he can’t see it.
    Under an embargo, right, what an idiot this manager is....transfer kitty for the next 5 years already gone to Nantes. The poor f*cker is juggling plates and people want more...For Cardiff to come close to break even they probably need a wage budget of 4k across 23 players.
    Honestly, who is going to buy anybody from our squad, secondly where is the money coming from to fund such luxuries of a new keeper on a free, no less ?

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Under an embargo, right, what an idiot this manager is....transfer kitty for the next 5 years already gone to Nantes. The poor f*cker is juggling plates and people want more...For Cardiff to come close to break even they probably need a wage budget of 4k across 23 players.
    Honestly, who is going to buy anybody from our squad, secondly where is the money coming from to fund such luxuries of a new keeper on a free, no less ?
    The same as the rest free transfer or a loan, probably a premier League young keeper.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    I would be surprised if we sign a keeper
    I'd be amazed if we aren't already trying.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    I would be surprised if we sign a keeper
    We did and shipped out Allsop and what a difference it's made, although with a keeper that was already here. How the hell wasn't he number one last season with those other dopey Managers?

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We are one injury away from Jack Simpson starting, and god knows who can pass in CM if we lose Wintle. Ugbo is not prolific, we need another option.

    Allsop is OK, he’s not great but he was not the season we couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo last season.
    This is why a central defender is a priority. Simpson being one injury away from first team action fills me with dread. Nice guy but not championship level.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    I think we’re definitely stronger than last season

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    I don’t understand why people are flapping and doom mongering when we are nowhere near the end of the transfer window. Maybe give the new manager a chance to finish assembling his squad before you decide it’s not good enough?

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesp View Post
    I don’t understand why people are flapping and doom mongering when we are nowhere near the end of the transfer window. Maybe give the new manager a chance to finish assembling his squad before you decide it’s not good enough?
    Isn't that what others are doing - looking at the situation as it stands and commenting on it?

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Looking at the reality of things seems to be a no-no on here if that look ends up not being full of positivity. Here's my take on transfers so far.

    Kipre out, Goutas in. Kipre was our best centre back last season by a distance. Who knows if Goutas is as good? Maybe he will be. Let's hope so because if he isn't we're in the shit. Ng was average at centre back when played there, McGuinness is debatably more a League 1 player and prone to the odd mistake. Then we have Jack Simpson. Christ. Goutas the unknown apart, that's the worst we've had in centre defence arguably since we were last in the third tier. No reason for optimism there.

    Watters/Harris/Kaba/Philogene out, Meite/Ugbo/Grant in. Grant should be an improvement there, but Philogene will be missed. The others fail to inspire me so far. Hopefully I'll be wrong. Shame we lost Kaba, but Harris and Watters aren't good enough at this level.

    Ramsey in. Hopefully he'll inspire and get an extra bit out of the players we have around him. His influence will be absolutely crucial.

    Hopefully we'll get full seasons out of Adams and Collins. They look capable of being better than we have. Colwill needs to step up to the plate.

    Some will call me negative without being remotely interested in offering different opinions. I don't give a shit about that.

    There's the potential for things to be better than last season but I fear it will all be unravelled because of a lack of quality still in midfield and at the back.

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    Re: We are going to finish 23rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Looking at the reality of things seems to be a no-no on here if that look ends up not being full of positivity. Here's my take on transfers so far.

    Kipre out, Goutas in. Kipre was our best centre back last season by a distance. Who knows if Goutas is as good? Maybe he will be. Let's hope so because if he isn't we're in the shit. Ng was average at centre back when played there, McGuinness is debatably more a League 1 player and prone to the odd mistake. Then we have Jack Simpson. Christ. Goutas the unknown apart, that's the worst we've had in centre defence arguably since we were last in the third tier. No reason for optimism there.

    Watters/Harris/Kaba/Philogene out, Meite/Ugbo/Grant in. Grant should be an improvement there, but Philogene will be missed. The others fail to inspire me so far. Hopefully I'll be wrong. Shame we lost Kaba, but Harris and Watters aren't good enough at this level.

    Ramsey in. Hopefully he'll inspire and get an extra bit out of the players we have around him. His influence will be absolutely crucial.

    Hopefully we'll get full seasons out of Adams and Collins. They look capable of being better than we have. Colwill needs to step up to the plate.

    Some will call me negative without being remotely interested in offering different opinions. I don't give a shit about that.

    There's the potential for things to be better than last season but I fear it will all be unravelled because of a lack of quality still in midfield and at the back.
    Abandon hope all ye who enter here !

    Stick to the darts sonny ff sake

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