We are going to finish 23rd

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Absolutely not what I’m saying. People saying we could do with players in a, b or c positions or we are going to struggle is very different to we are going to struggle this season.

Are the last two parts of your sentence the same thing ?

[OurManFlint II]

It leaves question marks over the manager for me if he can’t see it.

Under an embargo, right, what an idiot this manager is....transfer kitty for the next 5 years already gone to Nantes. The poor f*cker is juggling plates and people want more...For Cardiff to come close to break even they probably need a wage budget of 4k across 23 players.
Honestly, who is going to buy anybody from our squad, secondly where is the money coming from to fund such luxuries of a new keeper on a free, no less ?

[bluesp]

Are the last two parts of your sentence the same thing ?

Nope. The latter point is about people presuming we will struggle this season before the manager has finished building his squad

[Eric the Half a Bee]

They are nonsense statements from inside a damaged brain

We could beat Swansea ten nil and you would moan it wasn't eleven

Over to you. I'm interested to hear why you think they are nonsense statements. Be prepared to back up your arguments.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Nope. The latter point is about people presuming we will struggle this season before the manager has finished building his squad

Yes, but they're only doing so based on what's happened so far, which is why I asked whether posters shouldn't have an opinion until the squad is completed. You've said they are allowed an opinion before then, which is what they're giving.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Nope. The latter point is about people presuming we will struggle this season before the manager has finished building his squad

What's the middle bit about then ?

[bluesp]

Yes, but they're only doing so based on what's happened so far, which is why I asked whether posters shouldn't have an opinion until the squad is completed. You've said they are allowed an opinion before then, which is what they're giving.

Of course everyone can have an opinion, I’m all for free speech. It just seems strange to me to predict a poor season before we know the full squad available.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Over to you. I'm interested to hear why you think they are nonsense statements. Be prepared to back up your arguments.

You don't set the rules sonny

[bluesp]

What's the middle bit about then ?

Are you being silly Sludge?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Nope. The latter point is about people presuming we will struggle this season before the manager has finished building his squad

So is the other one ff sake

[OurManFlint II]

Of course everyone can have an opinion, I’m all for free speech. It just seems strange to me to predict a poor season before we know the full squad available.

Yeah but how....how we going to "finish business", with no money, boarding FFP, and a transfer embargo?

[bluesp]

Yeah but how....how we going to "finish business", with no money, boarding FFP, and a transfer embargo?

We seem to be doing ok so far, and there’s loans available and players to leave also

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Are you being silly Sludge?

We are going to struggle

We are going to struggle this season

That's your sentence composition and as far as I can see there is no difference ....

You say there is

I am stranded on the island of confusion here mate

[bluesp]

We are going to struggle

We are going to struggle this season

That's your sentence composition and as far as I can see there is no difference ....

You say there is

I am stranded on the island of confusion here mate

How’s this:

A) People saying we could do with players in a, b or c positions or we are going to struggle

B) is very different to we are going to struggle this season. ( so not factoring in any new additions whilst predicting a poor campaign)

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

How’s this:

A) People saying we could do with players in a, b or c positions or we are going to struggle

B) is very different to we are going to struggle this season. ( so not factoring in any new additions whilst predicting a poor campaign)

That's better

Now you are speaking my language

[Eric the Half a Bee]

You don't set the rules sonny

Nicely avoided and useful for future reference.

[jon1959]

Nope. The latter point is about people presuming we will struggle this season before the manager has finished building his squad

This time last summer we had brought in Kipre on loan, but not Philogene - and Kaba was 6 months in the future. We hadn't signed Etete or Robinson either - although both those were for fees which we can't do this window. I expect 3 more in - and I'm sure they will change the look of the squad.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Nicely avoided and useful for future reference.

I can't be arsed debating with the most miserable pundit on here .......equals avoidance

I can deal with that

[bluesp]

This time last summer we had brought in Kipre on loan, but not Philogene - and Kaba was 6 months in the future. We hadn't signed Etete or Robinson either - although both those were for fees which we can't do this window. I expect 3 more in - and I'm sure they will change the look of the squad.

Spot on

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I can't be arsed debating with the most miserable pundit on here .......equals avoidance

I can deal with that

In fairness, you've spent decades avoiding debate when it suits you.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

In fairness, you've spent decades avoiding debate when it suits you.

In fairness that's cobblers

Stick to jocky wilson

[Moodybluebird]

Taking a positive slant on things, we've now got two goods players back (Collins and Robinson), who both missed a substantial number of games last season, a proven goalscorer in Karlan Grant, a certain Aaron Ramsey and the promise of at least three more additions before the season starts.

Although nothing can be taken for granted in this league, for the life of me I cannot understand why many on here seem so fearful of our chances this season. The friendlies were used to raise fitness levels and try out different players and systems so should not be used as a barometer of our future success or otherwise. It is very likely our squad will bear little resemblance to the current one in a few weeks time.

Another factor that has been overlooked is that come January, the embargo will have been lifted and we will be able to play the market again should funds be available, which I'm reasonably certain they will be. At the end of last season, the feeling of doom was palpable. By and large the feelgood factor has returned and a defeat against one of the best teams in Europe shouldn't change this.

[Alan Lung]

In fairness that's cobblers

Stick to jocky wilson

He's right though, old chum.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Under an embargo, right, what an idiot this manager is....transfer kitty for the next 5 years already gone to Nantes. The poor f*cker is juggling plates and people want more...For Cardiff to come close to break even they probably need a wage budget of 4k across 23 players.
Honestly, who is going to buy anybody from our squad, secondly where is the money coming from to fund such luxuries of a new keeper on a free, no less ?

The same as the rest free transfer or a loan, probably a premier League young keeper.

[North Cardiff Blue]

This time last summer we had brought in Kipre on loan, but not Philogene - and Kaba was 6 months in the future. We hadn't signed Etete or Robinson either - although both those were for fees which we can't do this window. I expect 3 more in - and I'm sure they will change the look of the squad.

Agreed that's the reported situation, we will need them.