Reply With QuoteThey lost 5 0 to Oxford in their final pre season game also with their strongest side.Originally Posted by Des Parrot
They are awful.
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Great point. We can all remember walking into and walking away from that friday night Bristol game under neil thinking this is different, this is going to be fun. Was instant.
Balls to needing time to gel. I don't buy it.
All we got from bulut was the players were nervous and he doesn't know why. Promising!
They lost 5 0 to Oxford in their final pre season game also with their strongest side.
They are awful.
I reckon Bulut would have been really shocked by that performance and I’m not blaming him much for it, but I challenge any City fan who has watched us play at home over the past three seasons to say it came as a total shock to them. Blue Matt says he thought the first thirty minutes were pretty even, I didn’t- I’m not claiming any special expertise, but I had a good idea about what was going to happen after ten minutes as QPR, just like virtually every side that comes here were given plenty of opportunity to knock the ball around under minimum pressure by a City side that always forgoes the advantages that playing at home should give you.
We’ve been starting our home games like an away team for far longer than the last three seasons - you would have thought by now that the penny would have dropped that it doesn’t work, but I’m starting to believe the players can’t help themselves. I’m deadly serious when I talk about the need to consult a sports psychologist about our home performances. We’re not talking about seven home league games here, we’re talking about seventy of them in which we’ve been beaten thirty four times, while winning twenty two, this is a long term problem, not a panic reaction after two matches!
I blame the drums.
Well it's their turn as everyone else has had the fault between sat and this morning
I blame the fans for not turning up in their thousands and scaring the feck out of the opposition as that was what worked during the old days apparently
Oh by the way there were no drums on Saturday
I know. That's why I blame them. For not being there.
No drums = shit atmosphere = a team that isn't up for it = a team that doesn't close down the opposition effectively.
I rest my case and I win the blame game.
I think QPR knocked the ball around because we can't. It goes back nearly two seasons, but it's the same - we play 'table football', where the players are all in fixed positions and just pass it to each other. People have to grasp that our players in the main, are league 1 and could probably pass it around a bit against league 1 mid table teams. Yesterday QPR sat back [or were forced to sit back], and we had a bit of room that we couldn't make previously. But as your report says, that 'last 10-15 minute' charge' we've been accustomed to in recent seasons rarely produces anything positive.
Yes I agree it was poor, really poor. I was referring to people practically writing off the season already. I expected some inconsistencies early season but let's see where we are at the end of September. I'm guessing somewhere between Saturday and the first 45 minutes six days earlier.
To all you positive Percy's we didn't get shite overnight, this has been gradually getting worse since our last jaunt in the Prem. The club doesn't seem to able to learn how to successfully run a football club and doesn't seem willing to either.
Of course we should.
After a summer of signing players that people have actually heard of, versus the supermarket sweep of last summer, it is understandable that we might expect better.
It will be interesting to see what happens at Leicester now - were the 2 scrappy goals at Leeds and the inevitable capitulation part of a tactical master plan that nearly came off or just really lucky and more typical of how the team will perform this season?
One of which was a 2-1 win at champions Burnley, who had won 16 times in a 21 game unbeaten run.
QPR themselves had won a feeble 14 points in 27 Championship games before going to Turf Moor. They would then win at Stoke to ensure survival.
While it's easy to say they were dog shit for a long time, they found a way to get two good away wins to stay up, in fact found a way to remain unbeaten for their last 3 away games. The result at Burnley was totally unexpected, but by Championship standards, nobody should have been surprised.
Thoughts that we would steam roller QPR were maybe a bit misplaced. I expected us to beat them but in a close game.
I listened to a few reports of their game on the first weekend and every pundit had already condemned them saying that they had serious problems.
I thought we looked better when Adams went off. Robinson, Collins and Tanner made a difference. We did hit the woodwork twice.Argee the play was poor before that.
Just as a note, I said
1st 30 mins were we not great, but neither were QPR
At no point did I say it was pretty even, We could all see they had the upper hand in the 1st 30 mins, But I stand by what I said, We were not great, but neither were QPR, we hardly made them look like world beaters, they were 1st to most balls and probed down our wings ( especially our right , where I guess they thought we had a weakness ) but it was far from a massacre people are making out
on the flip side, the last 20 ( maybe 25 ) we looked much better than them, almost a constant attack
I think most people would have jumped to the same conclusion I did when they read what you said when, in actual fact, you thought they were the better side. I agree it wasn’t a massacre, don’t think it was ever going to be that for either side, but, as Eric said, I think it was realistic to expect a narrow City win beforehand. Instead, what we got is what we have got for three seasons now, nothing for about 85 per cent of the game, then a mad last fifteen minutes or so in which we hurl everything bar the kitchen sink at the opposition because we’re losing in an almost always vain attempt to salvage a point.
I don't expect us to gift teams two goals a game in three competitive games in a row and in most of the friendlies, we can't score three so will lose almost every game this season unless Bulut can sort it out, which reading his comments I don't think he can.
We've just played the weakest team in the League who will almost certainly go down at home and were two nil down with twenty-five minutes to go, I wasn't expecting that either.
The friendly before Watford they lost five nil to Oxford, they are absolutely rubbish, and so were we.
The first thing every single team we play will do, is press high up the pitch when they try to play the ball out, and pick up an easy goal from a miss pass, if he tries that again at Leicester we will concede four or more.
I agree with most of that but at the same time we started with 6 players who had never experienced a home game at the CCS before (5 new signings plus Adams) and an almost totally new managerial/coaching team. Not sure how often Alnwick played at the CCS last season either. So why does the experience and attitude of previous seasons carry over? It can't all be down to Tom Ramasut!
Players like Ng, Wintle and McGuinness have all been here for a few years or so now, yet they’ve never known a time when we’ve had what could be called a normal home record whereby more home games are won than lost, as has been the case in the sixty seasons I’ve been supporting the club. The stats say that in the time they’ve been at Cardiff, a home game is more likely to be lost than won - the same applies with someone like Rubin Colwill. You’ve also got the players who came in last summer - we’ve only won a quarter of our home games since they’ve arrived. We had more than half of the starting eleven who’ve been here long enough to have experienced much more failure at Cardiff City Stadium than success and they wouldn’t be human if a thought of “here we go again” hadn’t crossed their mind at some time as we struggled to impose ourselves on the game in the early minutes on Saturday- that’s exactly what I was thinking as I watched it.
And, as usual for the Championship, the pundits end up with egg on their face.
I'm not trying to gloss over what was a garbage performance, but if I had a tenner for every pundit who had written off a team in this division which then did ok, I'd probably have over a grand in the bank.
I remember us shipping 6 at Stockport in a pre season friendly. Why anyone gives any credibility to friendly results is beyond me.
When it's followed up by a four nil stuffing in the league it shows a pattern, how anyone can't see that is beyond me.
Well at least there hasn't been a false dawn......the sun hasn't come out yet. Hopefully, it will soon. Keep the faith.
dont worry, when the sun does comes out, it'll be way too hot for some on here
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