I ve driven from north Cardiff to splott the last 2 days and it's been basically normal rush hour trafficOriginally Posted by BLUETIT
Thornhill, Caerphilly Roads, were like a car park this morning
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I ve driven from north Cardiff to splott the last 2 days and it's been basically normal rush hour trafficThornhill, Caerphilly Roads, were like a car park this morning
When are they moving back to 30mph in NC, that drippy junior better get his skates on!!!
I would change all to 30mph except for your neck of the woods.
I would change all to 30mph except for your neck of the woods.
Lovely fumes all over the city….levels of pollution must be going through the roof nowThornhill, Caerphilly Roads, were like a car park this morning
In what way? Full of cars driving slowly because there's too many of them on the road, irrespective of what the signs say?Thornhill, Caerphilly Roads, were like a car park this morning
Got to be careful in car parks though as there's pedestrians about, although NCB would probably prefer people not to walk around in car parks.
It suits the argument to blame congestion this week on the new limits, at the same time conveniently ignoring bad weather, and people returning to school and work after the holidays. Poor little Chardonnay can't possibly walk to school in the rain either, so they rather sit in the Caerphilly Rd car park instead aswell.
I think give it a month and people will be fine with it, it's barely making any difference to 99% of journeys and it will save lives.
it also has some ancillary benefits, it does mean lower pollution, despite what some people have written on here and it also studies have shown it encourages more interactions across roads I e. people in trial areas more often interacted with people and shops across roads in 20mph areas than they did when it was 30mph, where interactions are far more concentrated on immediate neighbours on the same side.
Probably because they are traveling at the same speed they can talk from the car to people walking their dogs.
I think I'll leave ten minutes earlier tomorrow and shave and eat my shredded wheat in the car, probably do some emails too, might as well look at the positives.
yes that's the spirit, it makes it a lot easier to text and drive as well
Six months time in Cardiff, half the population!
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I thought you said everyone would erupt on the 17th
I shouldn't laugh, just got back from walking the dog and soaked, a train smashed through a puddle as I was just getting back into the street
in six months time it'll be old news, nobody will care about it any more
I did observe yesterday going at 20mph along quite a main road that cars wanting to come out of side roads were finding it more difficult , especially those wanting to cross the traffic, as there were fewer “gaps” with everyone crawling at exactly the same speed, nobody going faster or slower than 20mph . May have been just a coincidence though
that makes no sense
i think you just need time to get adjust to it, people just dont like change and blame whoever brought it in
Do you think it's possible there were just more cars than there's been recently due to pissing down rain and schools returning?
Just to test this, if I had to turn onto a road that was going at 60mph, I reckon that would be a lot harder than one at 30. So surely it stands to reason that 20 would be easier than 30, but this would be on the presumption that the number of cars was the same.
I did laugh on the weekend when my takeaway delivery (from half a mile away) was two hours late and the driver unironically blamed it on the new speed limits.
Bit difficult if you have to cross a road or get in and out of a car parked car on the road.
In 6 months time traffic jams will still be caused by the amount of traffic on the roads, and not the speed limit on those roads.
If Ducky has his way, every car will need a man (or woman, mustn't be sexist) walking in front waving a warning flag.
My thoughts-
20MPH is bonkers on arterial roads, fine in housing estates.
You burn less fuel at 20 than at 30 - BUT it takes longer to get from A to B, so you burn more per journey - hence more pollution.
there is less pollution per journey at 20 compared to 30
Bollocks there is….
Well at least that's one point proven with balanced reasoning
Saw this from a fella called Colin .
The entire “myth busting” here is built on the premise that there is stop-start traffic. Prior research has shown that a 20mph limit increases CO2 (due to increased fuel burn) by up to 35% over a 30moh limit. This also ignores the increase to journey times by presuming that all traffic is stop-start to eliminate the impact of going 66% as fast as a 30mph zone.
Factually speaking, vehicles are most efficient at around 50mph. This nonsense about stop-start traffic and 20mph limits being good is simply an excuse; it’s a way of shilling for most city governments by making the argument “most city governments haven’t properly invested in vehicle infrastructure capacity expansion or pedestrian capacity expansion even as populations have increased 50%, here’s why that inefficiency is a good thing”.
These “myth bustings” only work if we continue to think massive underinvestment in transportation capacity from our governments, even while taxes and ULEZ and congestion charges increase, is acceptable policy.
Anyone factored in the effect of care workers and Health workers in the community ?????
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