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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    pretty much all cars can manage to do 20mph in 3rd or 4th gear though, no need to drop to 2nd
    20 in 4th? No chance…..you like talking nonsense right?

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    20 in 4th? No chance…..you like talking nonsense right?
    I'll do 20 in 4th on the way home later if you like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I'll do 20 in 4th on the way home later if you like
    that'll be a really efficient use of the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    pretty much all cars can manage to do 20mph in 3rd or 4th gear though, no need to drop to 2nd
    you've missed the point. and your comment about physics is a little wide of the mark. In a text book you are correct, but we don't live in a world of constant acceleration rates and constant velocities. We live in a world where speeding up and slowing down burns considerably more fuel that travelling at a constant speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiVis View Post
    you've missed the point. and your comment about physics is a little wide of the mark. In a text book you are correct, but we don't live in a world of constant acceleration rates and constant velocities. We live in a world where speeding up and slowing down burns considerably more fuel that travelling at a constant speed.
    ok, well you also do more speeding up and slowing down at 30 than you do at 20

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    ok, well you also do more speeding up and slowing down at 30 than you do at 20
    Think of the very cautious drivers at junctions and how not being able to go above 20mph will impact there ability to keep the traffic flowing.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I've just read the actual petition, and it has to be the most poorly written load of nonsense I've ever seen on there, it reads like something from the Wales online comments section, with random BLOCK CAPITALS and somehow stating that this is the end of socialism in Wales.
    I'm actually embarrassed for anyone associated with this.
    There will be a backlash against these squealers soon. Far more important things to get in a lather about but they can barely squeak about them. Pathetic.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It matters not, we live in a dictatorship, they don’t need to listen.
    The audacity of the Welsh, especially Labour Welsh, to make decisions about their own country that ‘they’ can’t stop. Shocking.

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I'll do 20 in 4th on the way home later if you like
    Don't bother with 4th. It's 1st, 2nd, 5th for me 🙂

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    20 in 4th? No chance…..you like talking nonsense right?
    No one will need to worry about gears when they move on to the next stage of the plan
    Full employment in Wales.

    Every car will have to have someone walking in front carrying a flag as they travel round at 12 MPH
    It’s been done before

    These lot down the Bay aren’t as daft as you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by olderblue View Post
    No one will need to worry about gears when they move on to the next stage of the plan
    Full employment in Wales.

    Every car will have to have someone walking in front carrying a flag as they travel round at 12 MPH
    It’s been done before

    These lot down the Bay aren’t as daft as you think
    12 mph is a pretty brisk walk, it'll do wonders for the nation's quads

  12. #12

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    All the jibes being aimed at the Labour Party yet the vote on the matter in the assembly saw the three main parties in favour. For what it’s worth I think it should be reviewed and the system rejigged, taking certain major roads out of the 20mph zone. One thing though, that Tory leader, who was photographed with ‘20’s Plenty’ signs, you’d take it from that he agreed with the changes, has now changed his tune and sees it as a vote catcher. Says a lot more about him than Mark Drakeford.

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    All the jibes being aimed at the Labour Party yet the vote on the matter in the assembly saw the three main parties in favour. For what it’s worth I think it should be reviewed and the system rejigged, taking certain major roads out of the 20mph zone. One thing though, that Tory leader, who was photographed with ‘20’s Plenty’ signs, you’d take it from that he agreed with the changes, has now changed his tune and sees it as a vote catcher. Says a lot more about him than Mark Drakeford.
    I think there are very few roads that need changing, and they'll probably get sorted out over the coming year

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    Re: 20mph online petition

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    All the jibes being aimed at the Labour Party yet the vote on the matter in the assembly saw the three main parties in favour. For what it’s worth I think it should be reviewed and the system rejigged, taking certain major roads out of the 20mph zone. One thing though, that Tory leader, who was photographed with ‘20’s Plenty’ signs, you’d take it from that he agreed with the changes, has now changed his tune and sees it as a vote catcher. Says a lot more about him than Mark Drakeford.
    Reverse gear for you at 20mph it's been great for weeks good old Mark

    Still, you got there in the end with a bit of common sense, just one lefty left

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Reverse gear for you at 20mph it's been great for weeks good old Mark

    Still, you got there in the end with a bit of common sense, just one lefty left
    It's a good point, I might try and reverse to work tomorrow, it might be more stimulating and easier to keep under 20mph.

  16. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Reverse gear for you at 20mph it's been great for weeks good old Mark

    Still, you got there in the end with a bit of common sense, just one lefty left
    Reverse gear? I’ve said on this thread that it doesn’t really bother me and that it’s quite amusing witnessing the antics of the ‘Mr Angrys’. I’ve said that I’ve got other more important things to get on with. The reverse gear that the Tory leader is using is certainly exceeding 20mph though, no surprise there though

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    Re: 20mph online petition

    The Brynglass tunnel speed limit increased to 20 miles per hour from 100 meters per hour.

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    pretty much all cars can manage to do 20mph in 3rd or 4th gear though, no need to drop to 2nd
    I fear for the state of your car if you're doing 20 in 4th.

    Go back to your physics teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Reverse gear for you at 20mph it's been great for weeks good old Mark

    Still, you got there in the end with a bit of common sense, just one lefty left
    Am I the remaining lefty ?
    Didn't know it was a political thing especially given that the proposal was widely supported by the 3 main parties.
    ARTD is only getting involved as he's seen it as a way of political point scoring against Mark Drakeford.

  20. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Am I the remaining lefty ?
    Didn't know it was a political thing especially given that the proposal was widely supported by the 3 main parties.
    ARTD is only getting involved as he's seen it as a way of political point scoring against Mark Drakeford.
    ARTD is a big turd in the Tory swamp

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    ARTD is a big turd in the Tory swamp
    He's a sweating red faced farmer

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I fear for the state of your car if you're doing 20 in 4th.

    Go back to your physics teacher.
    Mine, which is a 1.6, seems to be happiest at 22mph in 3rd so that's what I'm using. What's 2mph between friends? I could definitely do 20mph in 4th so long as I was going downhill. On the flat, not so much

  23. #23

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    The petition is completely irrelevant. It's votes in the ballot box that count. Nothing is going to change unless there is some indication that a lot of Labour MSs will lose their seats at the next Senedd elections.

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    The petition is completely irrelevant. It's votes in the ballot box that count. Nothing is going to change unless there is some indication that a lot of Labour MSs will lose their seats at the next Senedd elections.
    I wonder if Lynn Global miscalculated this one

  25. #25

    Re: 20mph online petition

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    The petition is completely irrelevant. It's votes in the ballot box that count. Nothing is going to change unless there is some indication that a lot of Labour MSs will lose their seats at the next Senedd elections.
    Lobby Plaid Cymru to stand up to the 20mph limit then. They're the only party that could affect Labour.

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