Reply With QuoteOk fair point best of luck but I wouldn't hold my breathOriginally Posted by Gofer Blue
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This is not the same situation at all. I am not trying to negotiate a peace settlement on behalf of the Palestinians, in fact my letter is completely non-political and in it I am simply appealing to the ambassador to seek authorisation for a child (and her guardian to accompany her) to seek urgent medical treatment in another country. I don't see that that is being naive. Obviously there are probably hundreds of "Maziona's" but I am only aware of this one.
Ok fair point best of luck but I wouldn't hold my breath
And your point being?
It was in answer to the question 'why are the west refusing to condemn genocide by the IDF?'
What would your answer to the question be?
The 'west' as you put it are as secular as this board, so why would they give any more attention to God, His chosen people or anything the Bible says?
Perhaps I was referring to people like yourself.
One small and isolated piece of good news. Any reply to your letter Gofer?
https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ical-treatment
According to the UN children’s aid agency, Unicef, there are an estimated 2,500 children in Gaza in urgent need of medical treatment they cannot receive in the territory, where most health infrastructure has been destroyed over the past 14 months of war. It said children were being evacuated at a rate of fewer than one a day.
FAJR Scientific, a medical aid organisation, has been trying to evacuate Mazyouna for treatment to the US since June. “Due to months of delays, Mazyouna’s condition has deteriorated significantly,” said Mosab Nasser, chief executive officer at FAJR Scientific, who flew to Jordan on Wednesday to accompany the family to the US for treatment.
Nasser said children in Gaza were being denied the medical care that could save them and were then prevented from leaving for places where help awaited them, with the Israeli authorities making exceptions “only when it’s too late”.
He cited the example of four-year-old Elia Younis, who suffered fourth-degree burns and amputations after an Israeli airstrike near her home. Her mother, Eslam, also suffered severe burns and blood infection but was denied medical evacuation and died last month.
“We recently evacuated Elia to Jordan but she now has sepsis and is lying in an ICU in Amman,” said Nasser. “Doctors warn she might not make it – all this could have been avoided if she had just been allowed to evacuate sooner.”
There are many who still pay attention to God's unchanging *Word instead of the ever changing ideas of men. The Wales sized strip of land known as Israel continues to not only survive but prosper in many ways despite the agenda of so many surrounding their land (and elsewhere across the world). So while people like you will continue to assume that people like me approve of every decision they make in seeking to survive and prosper, the impact of the Jewish people on the world will mainly be suppressed in the minds of those who would rather see them once again scattered and/ or finally exterminated.
* Many rock solid promises given to them 2,500-3,500 years ago have actually come to fruition during the lifetime of some individuals here on this board who have been watching City since the 1946-47 post war season.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aza-resolution
US Senate rejects Bernie Sanders effort to block arms sales to Israel.
Moves to advance three resolutions all failed, garnering only about 20 votes out of the chamber’s 100 members, with most Democrats joining all Republicans against the measures.
Sanders introduced the measures in September as Israel continued its assault on Gaza – which has killed at least 43,000 people.
“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s extremist government has not simply waged war against Hamas – it has waged war against Palestinians,” Sanders said a press conference held on Tuesday ahead of the vote.
“Much of what’s been happening there has been done with US weapons and American taxpayer support,” Sanders continued, adding that the US has provided more than $18bn in military aid to Israel and delivered more than 50,000 tons of armaments and military equipment.
“The United States of America is complicit in these atrocities. This complicity must end.”
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More than 65% of housing, schools and healthcare facilities have been destroyed by Israeli forces, according to UN data. All 12 universities in the territory have been damaged or destroyed, according to Wafa, the Palestinian news agency. The UN also estimates that about 90% of Gaza’s 2.3 million Palestinians have been displaced. Humanitarian groups on the ground have reported malnutrition and starvation and global food security experts say famine in northern Gaza is imminent.
A spokesperson from Oxfam, a British non-governmental organization that has been providing aid to the displaced in the region, said: “The Senate must vote to finally end arms transfers to Israel, as we see the crisis continue to escalate with warnings of imminent famine and entire communities being permanently erased in North Gaza governorate.
“Israel is blocking humanitarian aid, and is meanwhile using US weapons in attacks that have killed thousands of children, aid workers, and journalists, destroyed schools, hospitals, vital infrastructure for clean water and more, and displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza, where there is nowhere safe.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...gaza-vote-veto
The US has vetoed a UN security council push to call for a ceasefire in Gaza that Washington said would have emboldened Hamas.
The resolution demanded “an immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire” in the war between Israel and the Palestinian group, along with “the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages”.
The UN security council voted 14-1 in favor of the resolution sponsored by the 10 elected members on the 15-member council, but it was not adopted because of the US veto.
But you’ve never shown any disapproval towards Israel’s actions on here. And you are far from referring to the mass killings as genocide, which is what the original question was about.
Thanks for the info jon1959.
Wow, that is good news indeed. Not quite sure how to interpret this paragraph though. Does this mean that the little girl is now in Jordan or will this Dr. Nasser have to go into Gaza to retrieve her? If the former at least it means the Israelis have allowed her to leave Gaza or if the latter then there could still be complications knowing the way the Israelis can be obstructive blighters. Either way it is an answer to my prayers for this girl - look at the timing!!
I doubt the Israeli ambassador has even seen my letter yet as I only posted it on Tuesday. Will be interesting to see if I do get a reply.
I have stated on more than one occasion that there is no country in history that is innocent during such times of conflict of actions that are totally unjustified and that would obviously include Israel. Me or anyone else making declarations on such atrocities is not going to impact the reality of each situation, but how we each react to fellow human beings certainly will have an impact on all future relationships and God has provided us with what are now world famous stories such as the 'good samaritan' to teach that practical love should be expressed even to those that may be considered to be our enemies.
Mazyouna Damoo, her mother and her sister (all injured in the same Israeli attack) crossed into Jordan early this morning. Her father was not allowed to go with them and has been left behind in Gaza. I can't see any details of when they will be able to travel on to the USA for surgery and further treatment.
This may be 'an answer to your prayers'. But I think it is more likely a response to negative international press coverage that was causing major embarrassment to the Israeli government. But the vast majority of the 2,500 children in Gaza in the same position did not get that level of international exposure and are going nowhere.
About time too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2exvx944o
Yes. And let's see how the governments that have funded those war crimes and crimes against humanity respond - especially the USA, Germany, Iran and the UK.
Sounds like a convenient way out of calling out Israel for genocidal atrocities.
I'll let God be the judge of that and everything else, as apart from him there is nobody else party to ALL the facts in each case, even followers of CCFC.
You’ve changed your tune since this time last year - if God backs what Hamas did on 7 October and/or what Israel has done since then, I’ll stay atheist thanks.
Did God back everything David did which included adultery the death of a man standing between him and the woman he wanted?
Obviously not, but David repented and went on to be one of the most successful Kings in history.
And firstly I didn't say God backed Israel's actions in Gaza and secondly you'll need a more robust position to defend your stance of atheism than events in the middle east!
Well, if you didn’t say God backed what Israel has done since 7/10/23, are you saying that he doesn’t? if so, why did you spend so long defending Israel in the months that followed the Hamas attack?
I am saying nothing has changed since the days of David, God has (for reasons only known to Himself) chosen one race of people to be the race that He ultimately blesses the world with, He already knew in advance of their disobedience when He made the *promise to their father, Abraham, yet He honoured and continues to honour that promise. I'm sure like many of us, He is appalled at their recent actions, and not for the first time. However as His prophet Zechariah stated around 520BC, Jerusalem would prove to be “An Immovable Rock for all Nations” (12:3). Anyone with even a passing interest in history would be be aware of this.
* That promise - “I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you. (Genesis 12:2-3)
Another quote of crap
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