Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Of course kids dying is a ****ing disgrace. All wars are.

Posting ignorant bullshit about Hitler on a football messageboard and then patting eachother on the back about it doesn't make it less likely and frankly in the real world has probably only added to it.

I'm not trying to impress anyone. I'm just disagreeing with people like you when I think you are wrong. You and others have always struggled to accept that, possibly because you self censure all the time, I dunno. But most people would think crass comparisons to Hitler are rarely valid.

You can't claim something is like Hitler, then if someone disagrees claim they don't mind kids being killed. Grow up and get real.

Did you bother to read what Miriam Margolyes actually said in that quote?

Hitler set out to destroy the Jews. Despite the Holocaust he failed.

She believes the Israeli state after WW2 has destroyed the essence of Judaism (its values and traditions) by its actions in Israel/Palestine - mass murder, ethnic cleansing and apartheid. That is not making a direct comparison between the political views (or personalities) of Hitler and Netanyahu. It is just saying that the current Israeli state has betrayed the Jewish people and what she believes they stand for - or should stand for.

Although there are fascists in the Netanyahu government - BenGvir, Smotrich and others.

Margolyes is not a lone voice in world Judaism. The post war consensus is breaking down. Whilst opposition in Israel itself has become more muted, opposition to Zionism and the actions of the Israeli state has grown sharply in places like the USA (with a Jewish population of similar size to Israel). It is driven mainly by concern for humanity and human rights but also by despair that the values and traditions of Judaism are being trashed.

And of course, the biggest cheerleaders for the actions of Israel that Margolyes and others like her condemn are Christian Zionists (who in the USA, 'the west', parts of west Africa and on CCMB massively outnumber Jewish Zionists).

And on your first sentence - kids are not 'dying', kids are being killed (often deliberately). I know the western media rules are that Palestinians die, Israelis are killed; that Palestinian deaths are a concern, whilst Israeli deaths are an outrage, but there is no need to parrot that on here.