That old one again - simple - go and ask Mike to get the ip addresses.Originally Posted by Dorcus
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That old one again - simple - go and ask Mike to get the ip addresses.
Surely everyone knows by now that this proves nothing. You don't even have to be at all tech savvy, just post from a mobile and a laptop with different log-ins.
****ing hell, considering the importance of this thread , you’re still harping on about multiple accounts , are you all there?
As another poster said, just because a few poster’s opinions differ to others doesn’t necessarily imply that they are multiple accounts. Don’t flatter yourself spa.
Boring ****
FWIW it’s a tragedy on both sides , just like Yemen,Iraq, Ukraine ( getting pummelled)etc.
Not sure why this triggered you, but just an innocent comment on IP addresses (that two other posters had brought up in the thread before me).
Well I think you can clearly see from my original reply to you that I for one have condemned the leadership on both sides. By the way it might have escaped your notice but Jeremy Corbyn is no longer Labour leader. We are well aware of your right wing myopic stance to everything; you really don't need to constantly remind us.
Tbf to Sludge and Dorcus, whom I often disagree with, I think they have been very fair here and rightly condemning the atrocities whilst also highlighting the futility of going in all hung ho.
I dont think anyone wants to see atrocities - on any side. There was always going to be a massive response from Israel.
Maybe they should have just shut all the water , power, fuel off - and not dropped any bombs.
But - it's a war now - Hamas have started it by doing what they did on Saturday - war crimes. Israel is paying back with interest. Neither side will back down, Hamas will end up being the cause of far many more Palestinian deaths than the Isareli bombs.
Sludge and Dorcas should offer their services international peace negotiators
Israel is again using it usual tactic of attacking the Palestinian people on mass with massive force in its revenge for the barbarous Hamas attack.
Israel's actions has always laid the ground work for the creation of even greater foes. In the early 1980’s they invaded Lebanon to cleanse it of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO). Initially the Shite population went along with it but after years of occupation and brutality against the local population they started to rise up. This was the creation of Hezbollah. They eventually forced them to retreat from Lebanon after suffering very high casualty levels. Hezbollah are now Israel's most dangerous enemy, created by by their own hubris. If they had not invaded Lebanon there would be no Hezbollah.
In the late 1970’s Israel funded a small fringe Islamic group, who had little support amongst the Palestinian people to act as a counter weight against the secular PLO. This group had little traction until they were funded by the Israelis. This group was Hamas. So by refusing to deal with the PLO and trying to play them against another Palestinian group, they created something even worse.
If they invade Gaza and kill every Hamas member, the level of slaughter and destruction wrought will be massive. The anger and hatred this will generate will produce an even worse enemy for Israel as history has shown.
It's difficult not to form the opinion that a butchered child and mother in a residential suburb in Israel is given a higher 'status' than the same in a crumbling tower block in Gaza.
The recent events in Israel are beyond evil, but the wicked Hamas terrorists have their counterparts in the Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel.
You need to send a copy of that to
Kay Burley
Complete jellyhead
Sky News
London
I can't believe they are letting her in the studio at this time , she's an absolute fruitcake
There no doubt about that
It's one way traffic
https://x.com/incontextmedia/status/...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
European Commission President Ursula Von Der Leyen condemned Putin's attack on Ukraine's electrical infrastructure last year.
However, she is currently supporting Israel's decision to impose a complete blockade on Gaza, depriving its residents of essential necessities such as food, water, fuel, and electricity.
UK to deploy royal naval ships to support Israel. No mention of sending aid to the Poor people who are being bombed to oblivion.
It won't be possible to deliver aid without the Israeli government granting it.
As sure as night follows day the UK sleepwalks into the fire on the coat tails of America
We have already stirred up bad feelings by going full square behind Israel
Now we are helping them out in a military sense
Turn out the lights
That is true - as it is for most of the EU and other 'western' states and their main allies.
However, it is noticeable that Antony Blinken, the US Secretary of State - whilst giving 100% support to Israel and denouncing Hamas - has given a strong message about not committing war crimes and targeting civilians (directly or indirectly): ' How Israel defends itself matters....'.
His joint press conference with Netanyahu had a different tone from the cheerleading we saw from Cleverly and Van de Leyden.
It may not make any difference to the latest Palestinian victims - but it is a slightly more balanced message than what we saw from our own Foreign Secretary. His comment on running for cover when an air raid siren went off - on the day that over 200 children were amongst the latest victims of Israeli attacks in Gaza - was sickening.
Pretty standard for navy's to reposition ships closer to events. It's the sensible thing to do. Be it military assistance, diplomacy, aid, support, morale, logistics, evacuations etc.
They are doing their job.
Absolutely appalling, we should be ashamed.
Nonsense. What is your problem with the following?
"track threats to regional stability such as the transfer of weapons to terrorist groups".
"military support would "prevent further escalation".
"deliver practical support to Israel and partners in the region, and offer deterrence and assurance"
"Our military and diplomatic teams across the region will also support international partners to re-establish security and ensure humanitarian aid reaches the thousands of innocent victims of this barbaric attack from Hamas terrorists,"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67095846
I think it has something to do with giving indirect military assistance to a country that has 400,000 troops and nearly $4 billion of backing every year, against a mainly impoverished, soon-to-be starving population crammed into ghettos for the last 70 years. I think I'd rather tax-payers' money spend more judiciously..
And 1 million gaza people given 24 hours to move before land offensive by Israel
Who is in need of help here ?
Why don't our military ensure humanitarian aid reach thousands of innocent victims in Palestine?
We appear to be best mates with Israel
There is being appalled by these terrible attacks and opening ourselves up to criticism and accusations of bias
The UN say there is already a humanitarian crisis in Palestine
It could be argued we are opening ourselves up to criticism and possibly the target for extremists
What makes you think that won't be part of the role?
If the UK government were sending forces out there as a joint peacekeeping force then that's neutral
As it is we appear to be propping up that nutter Netanyahu
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