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    Re: A question about improving support

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Maesteg supporters club come down through there and pick up at coytrahen and Tondu I think ?

    Max at the crown should know ?

    Will that help ?
    Too far the other way mate, I’m in Cefn Glas, but thanks anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingers View Post
    Too far the other way mate, I’m in Cefn Glas, but thanks anyway
    They pick up in town too , by the council offices I think

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    The club has always been pretty poor at advertising itself. When’s the last time you saw a CCFC billboard, poster, TV/internet ad, etc in and around the city centre?

    I can’t think of anything in the last couple years advertising upcoming fixtures, ticket prices, kit releases, etc.

    I’m sure a few posters in central station with the dates for the next 5 home fixtures and the prices would pay for itself with increased sales.

    I think there’s a bit of a preconception at the moment that football in the UK is an expensive day out but our prices are actually very reasonable, especially for families. Central station has a huge range of people going through it on a daily basis from all over Cardiff and beyond. I’d wager there’s a few in that crowd looking for something to fill their weekend with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Why have you never mentioned this a thousand times before?
    Well if people want to try and get more bums on seats they need to know what has been tried , what worked and what didn't

    Feel free to offer suggestions you old prune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    The club has always been pretty poor at advertising itself. When’s the last time you saw a CCFC billboard, poster, TV/internet ad, etc in and around the city centre?

    I can’t think of anything in the last couple years advertising upcoming fixtures, ticket prices, kit releases, etc.

    I’m sure a few posters in central station with the dates for the next 5 home fixtures and the prices would pay for itself with increased sales.

    I think there’s a bit of a preconception at the moment that football in the UK is an expensive day out but our prices are actually very reasonable, especially for families. Central station has a huge range of people going through it on a daily basis from all over Cardiff and beyond. I’d wager there’s a few in that crowd looking for something to fill their weekend with.
    There was an advert for season tickets on the electronic hoarding in Adam Street by the railway bridge a couple of months ago

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    Why are loyal away fans charged a pound to purchase an away ticket ?

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    I would say the club gets a lot right, more than most clubs, and the general ticket prices are decent really, and things in the family stand are great, as are the bands in the Canton etc. But still, the following are a few ideas off the top of my head;

    Get fans in earlier. Have deals on beer, make the concourses more pleasant. Some drop down seats, some more decoration etc. Just do it up a bit.

    Overhaul the prices and service at the food and drink stands. I hate feeling ripped off by my football club. Get better prices, have a cash bar too for people that want to pay that way. Just be less corporate.

    The £2 per ticket fee leaves a sour note.

    Allow standing in the Ninian lower near away fans

    Link up with TfW to better advertise the services from Grangetown and Ninian Park. Maybe even get extra services or price deals

    Try and get some fans to volunteer tidying up with litter etc around the ground after games

    Improve the pre match music a bit.

    Offer a better post match experience to watch results or the next game etc - tied into making concourses better.

    Become more of a 24/7 venue for City fans. Show away games in concourses, have the odd gig under the stands etc, maybe offer space for fans with start up businesses etc

    Change the shirts every two seasons, not every season, so one summer a new home kit, the next summer a new away kit etc..

    Let fans display flags in the ground more.

    Introduce more student prices to attract them

    Invite more local schools

    Reduce the price for mascots.

    More parking for disabled fans. This is a big issue for some.

    Lots of this stuff costs money but I think in many cases it would result in greater income, better relationships between fans and club etc.

    I get the club is a business but I always resent feeling exploited by them, which I sometimes do.

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    Re: A question about improving support

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I would say the club gets a lot right, more than most clubs, and the general ticket prices are decent really, and things in the family stand are great, as are the bands in the Canton etc. But still, the following are a few ideas off the top of my head;

    Get fans in earlier. Have deals on beer, make the concourses more pleasant. Some drop down seats, some more decoration etc. Just do it up a bit.

    Overhaul the prices and service at the food and drink stands. I hate feeling ripped off by my football club. Get better prices, have a cash bar too for people that want to pay that way. Just be less corporate.

    The £2 per ticket fee leaves a sour note.

    Allow standing in the Ninian lower near away fans

    Link up with TfW to better advertise the services from Grangetown and Ninian Park. Maybe even get extra services or price deals

    Try and get some fans to volunteer tidying up with litter etc around the ground after games

    Improve the pre match music a bit.

    Offer a better post match experience to watch results or the next game etc - tied into making concourses better.

    Become more of a 24/7 venue for City fans. Show away games in concourses, have the odd gig under the stands etc, maybe offer space for fans with start up businesses etc

    Change the shirts every two seasons, not every season, so one summer a new home kit, the next summer a new away kit etc..

    Let fans display flags in the ground more.

    Introduce more student prices to attract them

    Invite more local schools

    Reduce the price for mascots.

    More parking for disabled fans. This is a big issue for some.

    Lots of this stuff costs money but I think in many cases it would result in greater income, better relationships between fans and club etc.

    I get the club is a business but I always resent feeling exploited by them, which I sometimes do.
    Most of that actually makes sense.

    (You can make valuable contributions when you aren't on your one-eyed Tory hobby horse.)

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    Re: A question about improving support

    Corky, why doesn't the club hire marketing experts who understand yield management (no disrespect meant to any current incumbents)? There's at least one with football experience lurking on here...

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    Re: A question about improving support

    A few general gripes:

    1. Transportation to/from the stadium is truly horrendous. I cycled when I was back in the summer and security had cordoned off the cycle rack and moaned when I wanted to use it. The bus situation is a joke. No buses run near the stadium until around an hour after the game. The bus depot is 100 meters away FFS...

    2. The general matchday "experience" is drab and boring. There is very little on offer underneath the stands and the prices are silly. (The music played always makes me laugh too - does the club not know anything about the demographics of the early arrivers at games? These are not teens into Taylor Swift, they're old farts.) I'm sure there are a lot of people on here who have been to a US sporting event at a newer stadium and been shocked by higher quality "experience".

    3. I'm guessing the walk-up attendance on a match day is low. The reason for this is the club (and indeed most football clubs) have this all wrong - these are discretionary purchasers, not those who have no alternative for their $, like late flight bookers. The club should be discounting last minute customers, not penalizing them. Every empty seat is a wasted revenue opportunity with most costs of attendance being fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    A few general gripes:

    1. Transportation to/from the stadium is truly horrendous. I cycled when I was back in the summer and security had cordoned off the cycle rack and moaned when I wanted to use it. The bus situation is a joke. No buses run near the stadium until around an hour after the game. The bus depot is 100 meters away FFS...

    2. The general matchday "experience" is drab and boring. There is very little on offer underneath the stands and the prices are silly. (The music played always makes me laugh too - does the club not know anything about the demographics of the early arrivers at games? These are not teens into Taylor Swift, they're old farts.) I'm sure there are a lot of people on here who have been to a US sporting event at a newer stadium and been shocked by higher quality "experience".

    3. I'm guessing the walk-up attendance on a match day is low. The reason for this is the club (and indeed most football clubs) have this all wrong - these are discretionary purchasers, not those who have no alternative for their $, like late flight bookers. The club should be discounting last minute customers, not penalizing them. Every empty seat is a wasted revenue opportunity with most costs of attendance being fixed.
    If you offer discounts for last minute customers, lots of fans would leave buying tickets until the last moment, creating a big problem.

  12. #12

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    Some good ideas in here.
    I have to say more / advertised supporters buses from the valleys would be good.
    It’s a pain going if you want a few beers.
    I generally drive because the transport links are so bad, but I can see why people who aren’t as fussed about being there won’t bother

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    Re: A question about improving support

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    If you offer discounts for last minute customers, lots of fans would leave buying tickets until the last moment, creating a big problem.
    Are you thinking of congestion? Surely that's not really an issue in a world without cash. If you can buy coffee without even taking your wallet out even Cardiff City could organize something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    The club has always been pretty poor at advertising itself. When’s the last time you saw a CCFC billboard, poster, TV/internet ad, etc in and around the city centre?

    I can’t think of anything in the last couple years advertising upcoming fixtures, ticket prices, kit releases, etc.

    I’m sure a few posters in central station with the dates for the next 5 home fixtures and the prices would pay for itself with increased sales.
    That's a point. Bristol City have loads of billboard posters around the city centre. No way of knowing whether they get any value from them. Might be worth a try.

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    Free buses every 15 mins from The Train Station a hour or 2 before and after the game would help.

    After the Swansea game I got a taxi by Jeff Whites because I couldn’t be arsed to walk down Tudor Street if the rain started lashing again.

    Engagement and offers with the local communities should be welcome as well and balls to the whiners!
    Maybe 100 or so free season tickets handed out to community leaders for them to give away each home game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Most of that actually makes sense.

    (You can make valuable contributions when you aren't on your one-eyed Tory hobby horse.)
    The second comment was unnecessary, but you were almost kind, so thanks. All doable too, with some effort. 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The second comment was unnecessary, but you were almost kind, so thanks. All doable too, with some effort. ��
    Nah, you need to know your place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Whenever Wales play rugby, Arriva and now Transport for Wales, make changes to get supporters home.

    I know Cardiff City, or even Swansea, Wrexham etc don't generate that amount of passengers, but it's still an issue. I remember some years ago waiting for a train in Pyle on a Sunday. Every 2 hours. One turns up, 2 carriages, full of Man City fans. I couldn't get on it.

    Would it be such a problem if train capacity could be increased when needed to get fans home safely, without hoarding them onto trains like cattle?
    Man City fans on a train in Pyle on a Saturday morning ?

    What's all that about

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Man City fans on a train in Pyle on a Saturday morning ?

    What's all that about
    No, it was a Sunday afternoon. Found it. Sunday 11 March, 2012. They won 1-0. 2pm kick off. I tried to get a train around 6pm from Pyle back to Cardiff and it was rammed with Man City fans going home. Given the nature of the game, why on earth did Arriva not put on extra carriages? Not just for me, but I reckon that train left Swansea like that and anyone from Neath and Port Talbot wanting a train were fecked. Crap service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    If you offer discounts for last minute customers, lots of fans would leave buying tickets until the last moment, creating a big problem.
    Yeah thats the risk. Loads buy early cos it's cheaper but leave it until the day and some won't bother esp if weather is poor.

    That said, I can also see how high match day prices put off potential casual fans too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Yeah thats the risk. Loads buy early cos it's cheaper but leave it until the day and some won't bother esp if weather is poor.

    That said, I can also see how high match day prices put off potential casual fans too.
    When I didn’t have a season ticket, I didn’t go a few times at the last minute because I felt a bit aggrieved paying match day prices. Not sure there’s much of a way around that though

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    I don’t even bother trying to get on in ninian park/Grangetown to get home anymore. Just too full. So if I’ve gone by train it’s the walk to town then wait. Fun on the way, but not the way home. I can see why people would be put off
    As in walking through Riverside to central ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    When I didn’t have a season ticket, I didn’t go a few times at the last minute because I felt a bit aggrieved paying match day prices. Not sure there’s much of a way around that though
    Keep them the same price as early ones I assume?

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    Keep them the same price as early ones I assume?
    If you do that then people will wait and see if they fancy it on the day. If it’s pissing down you’ll lose a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I am not doubting the loyalty of our away support I am saying it should be more and plenty of fans think so too
    In these hard up times I don’t know who has the cash to give out £100 or more every other Saturday for an away trip.

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