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Yeah I can see that, we all know about Colwill not doing enough off the ball, I stand by he should have been loaned out to a league two team and got regular games until Jan, seemed obvious he wasn’t going to get enough game time.
Robinson has been a shock though, thought he would be a key player for us, can get goals and good link up play and works hard but he’s looked way off it when brought on in games.
league 2 my arse, he was winning games and playing enough at this level 2 years ago as a teenager, he's been running games for Wales u21 and we had offers from league one clubs in the summer which we turned downOriginally Posted by 2b2bdoo
I didn’t say he was league two level, just that I would loan him to a league two club. We to often loan players to lower leagues who hardly play. He could have gone to Reading, would he have been a key player starting regularly? I’m not so sure.
I would have rather he went to league two, be a key player in a team, play everygame, improve and come back in January a new player. Just a personal opinion.
Nevermind 2b2bdoo you haven’t got a scooby doo.
League 2 is not the place for Colwill it is a tough old league. League 1 for his development maybe but league 2 absolutely not. Newport Cewnty, like a lot of L2 clubs, just totally bypass midfield.
Oh that’s so funny with the name, hope it didn’t take you to long to come up with it tho.
He certainly needs toughening up, certainly not Newport, away from the area, the comfort and the hype.
Some but not all play like that, obviously it would have to be a certain club. League 1 even better as long as he gets regular games.
If we sent him to Wrexham he would be a film star they would probably make a whole episode for the documentary, it would triple his value and probably raise his profile and confidence.
Great player, but if the Manager won't play him because of his work rate, it would be better to go out on loan and improve, he should have a word with Tanner, he was criticised and came back strong and kept the shirt!
Colwill is definitely good enough but does he have the right attitude to fight back and impress the Manager?
As ever its always the flair players who get criticised, but the more defensive/lesser players never get criticised for their lack of creativity
Surely there's a balance to be found between attack and defence? We know Wintle won't provide the creative force that Robinson or Colwill will, that puts a lot of pressure on the wingers to provide and also puts a lot of pressure on the defence if we can't get a goal/play in the opponent's half
Exactly. City manager after City manager with this attacking players needing to be as good without the ball as with the ball attitude it’s so ****ing tedious.
Sound like the type of manager who would have Whitts on the bench.
Talks about being a man down without the ball were an attacker down with the ****ing ball with Wintle at the tip of midfield.
It’s not his work rate that annoys me. It’s his stupid mistakes from unnecessary risks that gets me
Suspect he knows there’s little point in laying down the challenge for Wintle as he’s performing at his best. Maybe he thinks he can get from from Robbo and Colwill.
Besides, the journalists just keep asking Bulut the same thing every week so what else is he meant to say.
Can see Robbo leaving though
Remember when people criticised Lee Tomlin and then when a manage actually started him and gave him a chance he dragged us to the playoffs pretty much single handedly.
Taarabt would be benched under Bulut, as would probably Bothroyd, maybe even Whittingham.
At some point you just have to let your #10s and strikers be attacking players and let them do what they do best. Robinson to me has always seemed like a hard worker, he's had loads of injuries recently and if he isn't playing regularly of course he won't look match fit.
Colwill is a player who could potentially win us games by himself, we've seen him score for Wales, vs Liverpool, winner vs QPR and Forest. 15 minutes here or there isn't good enough for a player like him. Give him 10 games to see what he can do, if after that Bulut still isn't happy send him out on loan.
If I were Colwill I'd try and get away for the sake of my career, it looks like he just won't be given a chance here and we will regret it.
I also think that Tanner hasn't improved much, that's not a criticism, I think he was always this good but he was just never given a chance. I posted about a year ago on here and Twitter saying the same thing about Tanner as I'm saying about Colwill now.
OK so you know better than the manager, let's go back to conceding two or three a game and Cowlill playing a nice few moves and tricks and losing 3-1, sack Bulut and start again with a new manager shipping another load of players in and out.
It's tough love from an experienced Manager, give me a better work ethic if you want to play, good on him, this team can't afford any luxury players.
Pep does exactly the same to world-class players, working for the team or warming the bench eventually players like Grealish and Foden get it, and become Premier League and Champions League-winning world-class players.
Ah yes, I forgot you aren't allowed opinions in football otherwise you know better than the manager.
But yeah I'm going to stick my neck out and say playing Robinson or Colwill would work much better than Wintle in #10. Everyone can see it apart from you and Bulut.
Whereas we're now being ultra defensive, not scoring at all and losing 1 or 2-0.
Lol
Eat your words for the 2nd time this week.
I think you’re right, if you want to play someone like Colwill or even Robinson in that 10 role you have to build the whole team around them and allow them to do their thing, even Ramsey was putting in a good shift. Obviously though that number 10 has to be exceptional like a Tabraat, even a Tomlin. Personally I don’t see Colwill at anywhere near that level yet, I guess the previous managers also don’t think we gain enough to compensate for what we lose.
Tanner has shown how you can adapt, Robinson and Colwill just have to do the same.
But that's not how were set up to play. And to say about Bothroyd is laughable when you watch Ugbo
Time waits for no one
Robinson clearly isn't match fit but when he is he needs to be up front not poncing about out wide
Colwill no idea except he's 22 ?
Why have successive city managers not played him when fit ?
The truth is out there
Exactly. Attacking players get dropped for not being good at defending. Defensive players don't get dropped for not being good at attacking.
Hate to say it but he needs to play
When we brought on Sawyers the other day was a wtf moment for me
Sounds fair enough to me. I like this guy.
Exactly. You could accept the comments about Colwill if Sawyers hadn't been picked ahead of him. Sawyers didn't break into a sweat in the Blackburn debacle
Colwill is 21
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