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Have we got no track because it travels at more than 20mph
no, we are being conned out of billions of pounds that we are owed that we could spend on rail infrastructureOriginally Posted by BLUETIT
Have we got no track because it travels at more than 20mph
The report I seen on the news stated North Wales were having it
Not that I’ve got any interest in the poxy rail service
Too expensive, never on time, dirty stock
they mentioned North Wales as one of the potential recipients of the money they will "save" by not extending the HS2 to Manchester. there is no guarantee that any of the projects they mentioned they will get anything though - they were all examples of what it could be spent on.The report I seen on the news stated North Wales were having it
Not that I’ve got any interest in the poxy rail service
Too expensive, never on time, dirty stock
and that isn't what this is about either. the government are still spending a LOT on the HS2 as far as Birmingham, and Wales aren't getting any of it
Scotland and Northern Ireland have been given a share of the money spent to spend on their own infrastructure, but they've designated the project as an England and Wales project, so we don't get any investment, despite not a single metre if track going anywhere near Wales.
people should be up in arms about this.
The Cardiff Bay Barrage was Barnett funded....did any of the funds used for Cardiff Bay Barrage go to anywhere other than Cardiff?
What about the SSC or the Severn Bridge....which were both built to assist Wales, all Barnett funded.
Stop your whining, Wales does very well all things considered.
Drippy would use it to lower toilet heights in Wales or some other daft idea!
If you get a child that's useless with money, you stop giving it to them anymore.
Anyway, Wales finishes at Cardiff anyway why waste more money further west?
so you're happy that Wales isn't being allowed to get money that Scotland and Northern Ireland are getting?
Not really, but I can understand them not wanting to give it to be wasted on nonsense, like Rainbow trains or crawler trains, that get you there slower but hit fewer people on the tracks or whatever useless idea they would come up with.
I don't think so. The Welsh Assembly contributed to their own downfall on this matter :
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-ever-27837964
....which is why there's a petition
So why not point the blame at them then , take your blinkers off
So nothing to do with Barnett, but all to do with the incompetence of Welsh Labour.
So you're complaining about how poor our rail service is but when offered a potential solution to get the funding we need to improve it you've no interest?The report I seen on the news stated North Wales were having it
Not that I’ve got any interest in the poxy rail service
Too expensive, never on time, dirty stock
Great stuff.
Wales is owed about £5bn in consequential spending from HS2. The electrification of the north Wales line would cost about £1bn (if it happens), so what about the other £4bn? Scotland and Northern Ireland got their money, why shouldn't we?
Maybe because they know the bunch of tossers we got running Wales would waste it
do you know how much the bunch of tossers in Westminster have wasted on HS2?
Yes, they demolished one of the Inns we used to visit because of it !!!!
All for a couple of minutes
why not give our tossers a fair crack if the whip then
Be careful what you may have started. From what I have read on here recently a couple of minutes extra journey time can get some people quite agitated!
Welsh Government: Taxpayers 'let down' after Wales failed to spend £150m The money was lost by the government due to "poor account management" according to a Senedd Committee
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...end-it-in-time
The Welsh Government wasted £144m on M4 relief road - MORE than £80 million of Welsh taxpayer's money was spent on drawing up proposals for the scrapped M4 relief road, while £10.72 million was used to buy land where the road would have been built
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...ief-road-went/
Senedd: 36 more Welsh Parliament members could cost extra £18m per year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-66807278
Sennedd deflection tactics, what daft blanket speed reductions?
It won't work we will never forget, and all that voted for it should be voted out, including RT and any other idiot that thought it was a good idea!
Your point is? Governments waste money all the time. The issue at hand is that Wales is owed this money, it's a disgrace that we aren't getting it. Even the Welsh Tories are calling for Wales to get the money it is owed.
Are they owed it?
If they give us any money it should be used to turn 20mph roads to 30mph roads, no one cares about trains to North Wales or Swansea.
Wales isn't getting this money because, unlike Scotland, rail infrastructure spending isn't devolved to Cardiff Bay meaning there is no obligation on ministers in London to provide exactly equivalent funding to Wales as they are providing to projects in England. What is little known is that the reason rail infrastructure spending is not devolved is in large part because of a decision of the then Welsh Assembly Government nearly 20 years ago - a decision one academic calls the "biggest mistake the Welsh Government ever made".
they are not OBLIGED to give Wales it's fair share of the money, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't decide to, hence the petition.
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