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Thread: Wales HS2 funding Petition

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    Wales HS2 funding Petition


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    Have we got no track because it travels at more than 20mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Have we got no track because it travels at more than 20mph
    no, we are being conned out of billions of pounds that we are owed that we could spend on rail infrastructure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    no, we are being conned out of billions of pounds that we are owed that we could spend on rail infrastructure
    The report I seen on the news stated North Wales were having it

    Not that I’ve got any interest in the poxy rail service

    Too expensive, never on time, dirty stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    The report I seen on the news stated North Wales were having it

    Not that I’ve got any interest in the poxy rail service

    Too expensive, never on time, dirty stock
    So you're complaining about how poor our rail service is but when offered a potential solution to get the funding we need to improve it you've no interest?

    Great stuff.

    Wales is owed about 5bn in consequential spending from HS2. The electrification of the north Wales line would cost about 1bn (if it happens), so what about the other 4bn? Scotland and Northern Ireland got their money, why shouldn't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    The report I seen on the news stated North Wales were having it

    Not that I’ve got any interest in the poxy rail service

    Too expensive, never on time, dirty stock
    they mentioned North Wales as one of the potential recipients of the money they will "save" by not extending the HS2 to Manchester. there is no guarantee that any of the projects they mentioned they will get anything though - they were all examples of what it could be spent on.

    and that isn't what this is about either. the government are still spending a LOT on the HS2 as far as Birmingham, and Wales aren't getting any of it
    Scotland and Northern Ireland have been given a share of the money spent to spend on their own infrastructure, but they've designated the project as an England and Wales project, so we don't get any investment, despite not a single metre if track going anywhere near Wales.

    people should be up in arms about this.

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    Welsh Government: Taxpayers 'let down' after Wales failed to spend 150m The money was lost by the government due to "poor account management" according to a Senedd Committee

    https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...end-it-in-time

    The Welsh Government wasted 144m on M4 relief road - MORE than 80 million of Welsh taxpayer's money was spent on drawing up proposals for the scrapped M4 relief road, while 10.72 million was used to buy land where the road would have been built

    https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...ief-road-went/

    Senedd: 36 more Welsh Parliament members could cost extra 18m per year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-66807278

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    So you're complaining about how poor our rail service is but when offered a potential solution to get the funding we need to improve it you've no interest?

    Great stuff.

    Wales is owed about 5bn in consequential spending from HS2. The electrification of the north Wales line would cost about 1bn (if it happens), so what about the other 4bn? Scotland and Northern Ireland got their money, why shouldn't we?
    Maybe because they know the bunch of tossers we got running Wales would waste it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Maybe because they know the bunch of tossers we got running Wales would waste it
    do you know how much the bunch of tossers in Westminster have wasted on HS2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    do you know how much the bunch of tossers in Westminster have wasted on HS2?

    Yes, they demolished one of the Inns we used to visit because of it !!!!

    All for a couple of minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Yes, they demolished one of the Inns we used to visit because of it !!!!

    All for a couple of minutes
    why not give our tossers a fair crack if the whip then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    why not give our tossers a fair crack if the whip then

    Ya, I’d vote for whipping them

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Yes, they demolished one of the Inns we used to visit because of it !!!!

    All for a couple of minutes
    Be careful what you may have started. From what I have read on here recently a couple of minutes extra journey time can get some people quite agitated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Be careful what you may have started. From what I have read on here recently a couple of minutes extra journey time can get some people quite agitated!
    No it f uck ing well can’t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    no, we are being conned out of billions of pounds that we are owed that we could spend on rail infrastructure
    Drippy would use it to lower toilet heights in Wales or some other daft idea!

    If you get a child that's useless with money, you stop giving it to them anymore.

    Anyway, Wales finishes at Cardiff anyway why waste more money further west?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Welsh Government: Taxpayers 'let down' after Wales failed to spend 150m The money was lost by the government due to "poor account management" according to a Senedd Committee

    https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...end-it-in-time

    The Welsh Government wasted 144m on M4 relief road - MORE than 80 million of Welsh taxpayer's money was spent on drawing up proposals for the scrapped M4 relief road, while 10.72 million was used to buy land where the road would have been built

    https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...ief-road-went/

    Senedd: 36 more Welsh Parliament members could cost extra 18m per year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-66807278
    Sennedd deflection tactics, what daft blanket speed reductions?

    It won't work we will never forget, and all that voted for it should be voted out, including RT and any other idiot that thought it was a good idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Drippy would use it to lower toilet heights in Wales or some other daft idea!

    If you get a child that's useless with money, you stop giving it to them anymore.

    Anyway, Wales finishes at Cardiff anyway why waste more money further west?
    so you're happy that Wales isn't being allowed to get money that Scotland and Northern Ireland are getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Welsh Government: Taxpayers 'let down' after Wales failed to spend 150m The money was lost by the government due to "poor account management" according to a Senedd Committee

    https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...end-it-in-time

    The Welsh Government wasted 144m on M4 relief road - MORE than 80 million of Welsh taxpayer's money was spent on drawing up proposals for the scrapped M4 relief road, while 10.72 million was used to buy land where the road would have been built

    https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...ief-road-went/

    Senedd: 36 more Welsh Parliament members could cost extra 18m per year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-66807278
    Your point is? Governments waste money all the time. The issue at hand is that Wales is owed this money, it's a disgrace that we aren't getting it. Even the Welsh Tories are calling for Wales to get the money it is owed.

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    Re: Wales HS2 funding Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    so you're happy that Wales isn't being allowed to get money that Scotland and Northern Ireland are getting?
    Not really, but I can understand them not wanting to give it to be wasted on nonsense, like Rainbow trains or crawler trains, that get you there slower but hit fewer people on the tracks or whatever useless idea they would come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Not really, but I can understand them not wanting to give it to be wasted on nonsense, like Rainbow trains or crawler trains, that get you there slower but hit fewer people on the tracks or whatever useless idea they would come up with.
    grow up

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Your point is? Governments waste money all the time. The issue at hand is that Wales is owed this money, it's a disgrace that we aren't getting it. Even the Welsh Tories are calling for Wales to get the money it is owed.
    Are they owed it?

    If they give us any money it should be used to turn 20mph roads to 30mph roads, no one cares about trains to North Wales or Swansea.

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    Re: Wales HS2 funding Petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    grow up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    they mentioned North Wales as one of the potential recipients of the money they will "save" by not extending the HS2 to Manchester. there is no guarantee that any of the projects they mentioned they will get anything though - they were all examples of what it could be spent on.

    and that isn't what this is about either. the government are still spending a LOT on the HS2 as far as Birmingham, and Wales aren't getting any of it
    Scotland and Northern Ireland have been given a share of the money spent to spend on their own infrastructure, but they've designated the project as an England and Wales project, so we don't get any investment, despite not a single metre if track going anywhere near Wales.

    people should be up in arms about this.
    The Cardiff Bay Barrage was Barnett funded....did any of the funds used for Cardiff Bay Barrage go to anywhere other than Cardiff?

    What about the SSC or the Severn Bridge....which were both built to assist Wales, all Barnett funded.

    Stop your whining, Wales does very well all things considered.

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    As usual the tories on here win gold in mental gymnastics.

    A chance to get 5 billion to improve transport in Wales 'nah it'd be wasted'.

    They then whinge wondering why public transport is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiVis View Post
    The Cardiff Bay Barrage was Barnett funded....did any of the funds used for Cardiff Bay Barrage go to anywhere other than Cardiff?

    What about the SSC or the Severn Bridge....which were both built to assist Wales, all Barnett funded.

    Stop your whining, Wales does very well all things considered.

    Wales does not to very well all things considered - we get hardly any infrastructure spending compared to parts of England.
    the Severn bridge wasn't Barnett funded as it was completed a long time before the Barnett formula was introduced.
    the second Severn crossing wasn't either, it was privately funded with the operators then allowed to make a massive profit from the tolls to pay it off.
    basically the people of Wales have ended up paying for it. an awful decision which I think should be investigated as it represented such poor value for the taxpayer, I'm sure there was some skulduggery going on there.

    Cardiff bay barrage was built more than 20 years ago for about 200 million - that doesn't seem like a good reason for Wales to forgo billions of infrastructure spending today.

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