Reply With QuoteA huge success?Originally Posted by JamesWales
Mmmm
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I'd say you are being economical with the truth if you think shows at the millennium are well patronised compared to bands
A huge success?
Mmmm
Based on what? A feeling in your water?
You don't have to go to every event at the millennium......and you don't either .....to know that it would be far more used to capacity if it was a contemporary music venue
Like St David's Hall back in the day the big earners were rock and indie and pop events
Have you been to any? Which ones? And you're right. I've never seen a musical there or ever likely to. But I have been down the Bay often when they're on and there are throngs of people streaming in and out.
Oh no there are plenty of events at St David's and the millennium where hardly any tickets are sold
I have seen photos of the audiences and have plenty of conversations with people who have been there with just a few hundred people in a 2000 seater venue
stunning venue its an awful eyesore
I think it's stunning outside too but that's down to personal taste I guess. I know that the Senedd building won awards for design and, while it's really good inside, I find the fact it's all glass means you can't really see it from outside. In fact I incurred the wrath of the guide who showed us around it a while ago by saying so.
I think it's great
It's just ridiculously under used trying to be too many things
If it was a major venue on the band touring circuit it would certainly make up for the empty seats when it puts on cabaret
Well not when I've been in there or witnessed the crowds from outside. Anyway rational debate isn't a, strong point of yours so I'll leave you to your metal-fuelled misery.
He does it for attention
Well if you have been to a few shows at the millenium or been there when there have been big crowds outside that isn't evidence at all of the place being a roaring success , is it ?
Rock or contemporary events sell out ....I went to see Van Morrison about 10 years ago in one of my mellow phases and they could have sold that twice over
Cardiff is crying out for a mid range music venue and we have one ......but it's more likely to have Siberian Jugglers on stage ....in front of a few students
Matron he needs his tea and cake
You seem to be a cut throat capitalist when it comes to music venues,the arts & culture. You've imbibed the free market mantra, now you push it. Mad.
God we need football back, arguing about a feckin theatre hall now
Bigger cities have more houses too. Amazing!
If you compare Cardiff with any city of similar size I think it does very well.
Having been born here 90years ago to me there will never be a better place to live, that is all I have to say.
Mostly agree, get rid of Drippy and things will improve quickly!
I would agree with you there
I left in 2000 but the city has improved enormously in that time. Up until about a year ago, anyway. When were you last back? The city centre suddenly feels like it’s in decline and very dilapidated. I go back a few times a year and the last trip was quite shocking. The public transport system is a joke: the city has a train system but runs toy trains on it. The buses have been decimated. I used to travel in easily by public transport 20 years ago. I had to drive this time, the public transport is simply ineffective now. The road system is fragile beyond belief- the fact they are growing the city with no development of the roads or transport system is ridiculous. Llandaff was always a bottleneck but you might as well walk now- buses aren’t going to get through that mess, and the train system is a joke. And they are piling thousands more houses out towards radyr with no plan for the infrastructure. Llandaff is going to be a mess. It’s so frustrating that a city with so many natural advantages has been so badly mismanaged for so long. I still love Cardiff as a city and I still think it’s the best “do everything in an hour” city centre in the country, and it still has unique things like the arcades. But whereas it has seemingly resisted the decline suffered by other cities since the emergence of Amazon until recently, it’s also seemingly spent the last year or so catching up bloody fast .
All that said- I do agree it’s still a great place to live. I just think it’s really missed a trick that might have seen it rise rapidly to be one of the best places to work and live in the country. I appreciate none of this is really what the OP’s post is about but it really boils my piss as a (now) outsider to watch it al happen
You raise some important points. Afew cities, Cardiff included are seeing some signs of declines, primarily as a result of working from home, hollowing out city centres, making public transport unsustainable, coupled with rising problems in the city centre etc.
Can Google the 'Sam Francisco Doom loop' to read more.
Stan Collymore wrote this on X about his town, Cannock. He's got a good point, here, particularly about a chronic lack of spending and investment on infrastructure, and that's across the UK.
I'm always in Cannock.
I know my town better than anyone. Anyone. From local government to national representation.
You know when Cannock people should have started paying attention? Not when people fleeing war stay in 2 hotels. We should have started paying attention when the sons and daughters of generations of Coal Miners (who in some of my mates cases were literally starving during the miners strike) continually voted for a party that has left our town in tatters.
The town centre is dead, go up to Park Road and see the line of people waiting for methadone as the town battles a major heroin problem, then look at the "shops" which now is vape /barber/poundshop on a loop, and then tell me with a straight face that Cannock voters aren't responsible for the state of the town but 200 brown people in 2 hotels are.
People walking around town in ****ing dressing gowns and slippers, local standards disappearing due to the chronic lack of investment in infrastructure and people in our town based on voting for parties contrary to our town's interests has turned chunks of it feral.
And we can't blame "them" because 97.4% of Cannock people are white. But hey, it's the 200 people in hotels fault.
Only a bigot could blame people seeking asylum for the woes of a town which decided that decades of Tory government would make their town healthy, happy and productive but instead has left it a shell of the vibrant town it was many years ago.
Blame yourself for once. Blame your vote. Blame yourself for giving liars, cheats, corrupt officials your thumbs up nationally.
Was it the Tories that made Stan Collymore go dogging or slap up Ulrika Johnson? Isn't that what he did to her?
Whatever the problems of Cannock, the residents have a legitimate right to object to immigration. There's genuine concerns. Collymore dismisses this right with anti Tory platitudes and thinks that he knows better.
He mentions heroin addicts, yet it was Labour's wars that enabled the opium cultivation trade to flourish in Afghanistan leading to heroin saturation in Britain. I really wouldn't follow much Collymore has to say on anything.
He's not wrong about a lack of spending on infrastructure etc. Since 2010, we've had so many public spending cuts that it was bound to have a massive, negative effect. All so multi millionnaires could keep more money.
He would be better off not making it party political. Things are far more complicated than that.
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