Reply With QuoteAnd I would shoot youOriginally Posted by Alan Lung
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Change the record it's getting boring now.
And I would shoot you
Quite
Exactly. i think the people complaining that little Everton are being hit, but the bigger cubs get away with it, are missing the point of the penalty. They've hit Everton hard for a single offence, so when Man City are found guilty, and eventually they will be, there is precedent in place. Man City will get truly screwed, I expect a relegation and stripping of EPL titles.
Shut up merfur
That would be great
And when the same clubs win promotion next year what are you going to do? Relegate them again? And again? And again?
Or more likely a bit of finger-wagging
Not necessarily. The charges against Man City and Chelsea are of a different nature, so it's not like for like.
I find it laughable that Everton's defence was Daniel Levy drove a hard bargain and got Richarlison for Ł20m less than they wanted. Sounds like Everton need a better transfer negotiator
Levy is notorious for it
Another potentially issue is the freedom with which players employed by clubs who are part of a conglomerate (several clubs in different countries owned by the same owners) can just swap clubs on loan.
No fees, no deals, no troublesome agents.
If you are a club that is not part of a conglomerate (and half the clubs in the Premiership are not) how fair is it to be faced with this additional hurdle.
If you want to sign someone on loan and one of your rivals also want him you have no chance.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67490620
Newcastle will be able to sign players on loan from sides also controlled by their Saudi owners in January, after a vote by Premier League clubs on a temporary ban on related-party loans did not receive the required support.
Twelve clubs voted in favour of a block on loan moves between teams under the same ownership.
That was two short of the two-thirds majority needed for it to be passed.
The Premier League was understood to be in favour of introducing the ban.
While clubs have been able to sign players on loan from clubs that are under the same ownership for some time, the matter has been heightened by Newcastle being owned by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF) since 2021.
It is understood Newcastle, Manchester City, Chelsea, Sheffield United, Everton, Wolves, Nottingham Forest and Burnley voted against the ban.
I am not surprised by how the big prem clubs look after themselves, to hell with the smaller clubs with one-club owners.
If Everton go down then there is no certainty they will come back up
Behave, they're a massive club with a massive new stadium, they won't be down for long unless they're sued by clubs who were relegated during their financial misdemeanor. That could be a big blow.
Leeds are a huge club , they were down for 15 years
A huge club that has spent half of its existence outside the top division.
It wasn't until revie grabbed hold of them but there is absolutely no doubt that they are a huge club
Newcastle , Leeds , Sunderland have all had bad times since the seventies
United went down in 74
But came back up
With regard to Everton are they bigger than Newcastle , Leeds and if they do go down there is no certainty of a return to the greedy league
Status and tradition helps but if they are stripped of resources and every game against them is a cup final then they won't be filling a 60000 seater stadium
There was a podcast on radio 5 the other day and the fans were having kittens about relegation . If they go down and don't come straight back up then the rot will set in .
Would be a terrible time to have a massive new stadium.
I don't understand all the oh it will be sad to see a club like Everton go down nonsense
They will probably recover but ten years out of the limelight would be good especially if Chelsea or City or several of the others hit a bad patch
Lots of clubs go through bad times and the likes of Bury , Rochdale and Halifax never get anywhere but they are still loved by their fans
Listening to these whinging Premier league fans is both nauseating and enlightening
Unless you have a huge, loyal fanbase. Which is the case with Everton.
Everton can fill that stadium in the championship once a fortnight.
The real money with these stadia comes from selling out the VIP section. Their budget forecasts will take a hit as they're not gonna be getting high occupancy at high prices there. Plus the TV and rights money that they're missing out on, the stadium will be budgeted based on that.
Bums on seats is a small part of the income nowadays, and those bums will have cheaper tickets in the championship.
It would definitely be a terrible time for them to be relegated.
Having a brand new stadium is going to increase VIP sales, you're making out this new stadium is going to hold them back. Quite the opposite. They may suffer reduced television money but you're forgetting, they won't be competing with Premier league teams on Premier league money. They'll be competing for promotion with the likes of Ipswich, Leicester etc
If attendances didn't matter, Daniel Levy wouldn't have spent close to a billion pounds on a BIGGER new stadium. Liverpool wouldn't have just increased their capacity with a stand exspansion.
No, I'm saying that getting relegated would be a terrible time to have a new and expensive stadium to pay for. I haven't 'forgotten' that they won't be competing with teams on Premier League money, I'm saying that the stadium is financed on Premier League money.
Arsenal suffered on the pitch long after moving into the Emirates stadium, and they were in the Champs League every season for the next decade. They'd won the PL title 3 times in 6 seasons before moving (and second every other season), and in the 16 seasons at the Emirates they've come second twice. Wenger has said that the stadium move was the major reason for this (though, to be fair he would say that).
This article says Everton may need to sell the stadium if they go down
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo....html#comments
"One of the bitter ironies for those fans is that the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock - the face of the club's future for so long - could become someone else's, if relegation does come. One scenario is that it would be sold to raise cash and an arrangement reached by which Everton would become the tenant."
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