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If you want a drink and don’t want to use a pub, drink in your house. The beer will be a bit dearer but if you want to drink anti socially that’s the price to pay. Having a pint socially, in good company, is a treasured thing that seems to be, sadly, slipping away. Humans should be mixing, not sat on their settee on their own on a midweek night clutching a can watching telly.
Sport & local pubs go hand in hand, I equate the demise of local parks football/baseball etc with the demise of pubs. Many teams were formed by lads getting together in their local with a ‘Why don’t we get a side together and join the District or Combination League’. The landlord would be happy encouraging them back after their games, giving them a base, win/win for everyone. You’d play a team away and go back to their base sometimes. I formed friendships, that still last to this day, with opponents throughout Cardiff and beyond through sport, which all stemmed from pubs and clubs. And, importantly, not through being pissheads but through comradeship.
The demise of this has led to ‘estate isolation’ and, perhaps, unhealthy rivalry that didn’t exist yesteryear because you got to know people from other areas, not just through football/rugby/baseball etc but also skittles, darts, pool etc. All, sadly, dying because of the lack of pubs.
Spot on about the demise of pubs affecting sports teams. Not so many years ago there was four divisions in The Barry and District league and around 50 teams, now it's just two divisions and around 20 sides.
There's a young couple [30's] across the road from me. Since COVID he and his wife both work from home. Tesco delivers their food etc, and the occasional Deliveroo for 'special occasions'. Mid morning he pops down the road and brings back two coffees. That's it. They barely go anywhere, and it's the same for a growing majority of young people. My wife and I are in our local twice a week with friends and it's the best therapy you can have.
Yeah your last point is key. Pubs are an absolutely critical piece of social infrastructure. People are going to drink, it's so much better to do so in a pub, where you can talk, be looked over, have viewed shared and moderated, as well as walking around more, socialising generally etc.
It's so important.
Like so many similar things, it feels under attack generally in the internet / mobile phone age really.
That said, people travel more too now. People go on more elaborate stag dos and go to town more or other cities. I guess part of it is natural changes but I do think more understandign of how important pubs are is needed.
I'm not sure how important posh pubs are though. I always view pubs as bringing society together. But when you have a kind of modern pub, cashless, charging £6.50 a pint or whatever, they are doing that to keep people out really. I have no time for that and they are almost the opposite of what traditional pubs role is.
Just out of interest, I went out out tonight, to the Wetherspoons in Gloucester. £2.88 a pint & I stopped counting at a thousand people, probably 1200 or so inside. 13 behind the bar, must have been coining it. 10 pints & 2 curries, less than £45
Tim Martin will be the last person laughing in the industry, people can get behind causes like 'neverspoons' and supporting local pub prices, but their prices are so much lower than the majority of other pubs that they will always be a preference.
Spoons outside of central London on weekends are absolutely packed, pubs a few minutes away are not for the main. Especially those that don't put sport on.
There are plenty of opportunities to mix and socialise without going to a pub
I would rather chat in a community centre or hub than sit in a pub surrounded by people who have been drinking alcohol
After a couple of drinks most people start becoming incredibly boring
After watching the Wales game I think we maybe should nationalise Opium Dens
Of course, but none of them are random people I've bumped into in a pub.
I do visit pubs from time to time, particularly if I'm watching City but I do go out with friends to pubs from time to time. I can't say I ever socialise with anyone bar the group of people I'm with, and they're all the same.
How did I meet my mates? Work and music mainly. Most of my mates I've known for years.
No, I don't usually give a shit about any strangers sitting on the table next to me. I'm too busy talking about stuff with friends that interests me. I'm not someone who takes too kindly to any stranger who wants to strike up some random conversation about something that doesn't interest me, either.
I know others who are like me as well. We're not all people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything.
But ‘socially’ there is a place for people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything. Not everyone is so insular and ‘closed shop’. The pub is an important part of UK society, a great place to meet and chat. Loads of wonderful marriages, resulting in cracking kids, began in a random pub meeting.
Shut the pubs
Turn them into housing association flats or community centres
Those that still want to drink buy them cans and send em down the park
My mates in a band
He did a charity gig with his mates for the tsunami disaster
We all met in a pub near the venue which was one of those mega boozers with lots of function rooms and bars , great place
We are just having a few drinks before the band had to go on , wives , girlfriends , groupies like me , just chilling
Was chatting to my mate about bands etc , got up to go to the bar and this bloke notices my tool t shirt , he's pissed up but at the bar I was pleasant then went and sat back down
Next thing we know he's pulled up a chair and talking shite and making us all feel uncomfortable
So we all decided to do one when he went to the toilet
An hour later he turns up in the gig , making an absolute arse of himself and in the end he started threatening us so I grabbed hold of him took him to the bouncers and out he goes
The bouncers then have a go at me for not letting them deal with him ff sake
That's the thing in places like pubs where people are pissed , you be pleasant and nice to these idiots but there's always one drunken old bore ready to spoil the evening
Feckin hate pubs , don't mind them in the day for a bit of food out of the way of the boozers though
I would say a good 20-25% of people my age I know semi-regularly use coke. It is everywhere.
Vast majority of assaults and public order offences happen in pubs , clubs or near to them
Avoid them if you have any common sense