https://x.com/implausibleblog/status...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
So obvious at the time to some
Sir Patrick Vallance; He had a habit of saying things which he didn't have a basis for..
AO: He said things that weren't true?
PV: Yes
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https://x.com/implausibleblog/status...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
So obvious at the time to some
Sir Patrick Vallance; He had a habit of saying things which he didn't have a basis for..
AO: He said things that weren't true?
PV: Yes
Matt Hancock is a Liar Shock, Horror....Originally Posted by TWGL1
https://x.com/implausibleblog/status...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
So obvious at the time to some
Sir Patrick Vallance; He had a habit of saying things which he didn't have a basis for..
AO: He said things that weren't true?
PV: Yes
Why would he need to lie ? I wonder what’s to hide, if he lied is there any wonder why significant numbers of the public were sceptical?
Self appointed government deputies must be cringing.
Well, seeing as it's the Governments chief Scientist saying this about Hancock, and agreeing with him, aren't we 'Following the Science"?
Not really as he’s been not following the science eitherWell, seeing as it's the Governments chief Scientist saying this about Hancock, and agreeing with him, aren't we 'Following the Science"?
https://x.com/hirdygurdy/status/1726...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
It’s almost as if they all were at some point in time.
I'm confused, I assume that clip is from early March 2020 when, for a short while, the UK was following the herd immunity line and then , within a day or two, it all changed because of Ferguson's modelling which showed half a million could die. Are you saying that they were wrong to push the herd immunity line and then wrong to change their minds about it?Not really as he’s been not following the science either
https://x.com/hirdygurdy/status/1726...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
It’s almost as if they all were at some point in time.
Who appoints themself as a government deputy?
sage was all for this herd immunity thing also- so they must of also thought the modelling was wildly inaccurate, especially when you take into account the other modelling undertakings in respect of the effects of lockdowns on the population- which we are seeing now which the significant spike in excess deaths, particularly in people under 50.
https://x.com/ian_fraser/status/1397...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
I'm not sure that clip confirms that SAGE, as a body, were ever in favour of herd immunity, it would be news to me if they were. My recollection is that, as shown by the video you linked, Valance, and maybe Whitty, spoke in favour of herd immunity for a short period of possibly as little as two or three days before a decision was made that the number of deaths, as predicted by modelling, was too high and another approach was required. The situation was so fast moving that I'm not sure SAGE would have been able to convene a meeting where all members could agree with what Valance and others were saying for that very short period before the herd mentality approach was abandoned.
It wasn’t fast moving , from about two weeks in it was obvious a “case demic” and it was also obvious that the PCR test was set too high which resulted in common symptoms being incorrectly identified as Covid.
Furthermore the PM knew in 2020 (prior to any vaccination rollout) that the average age of a Covid death was higher than the average death rate.
That is probably why Ferguson and Cummings broke the rules very early in to the pandemic and why many people didn’t fall for the “scare the pants off them” narrative.
If only you had been posting this "obvious" stuff at the time I guess you might have talked some people out of their groupthink. We had to make do with WalesBales spouting nonsense and then contradicting himself every week or so until he took a year's sabbatical.
The very fact the top Government scientists were saying one thing one day and something completely different a couple of days later proves that the situation was fast moving. I guarantee you were thinking something completely different in early March 2020 than you do now.
I feel the same now as then , give or take a week or so after it first started, especially when I had Covid symptoms in the November prior to the first lockdown, which suggested it was prevalent much sooner.
Another success for the anti science brigade. Cardiff has the biggest measles outbreak in the UK.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...wsApp_AppShare
Stop calling Tony Blair anti science-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rmed%20as%20he
https://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/e...air/index.html
I think you’re way behind the facts in many areas, hence why you come out with some very different conclusions
Hesitate to ask the same question - but did you read these articles?
Yeh at the time I did it was well known he opposed it and I’ve no reason not to believe he changed his mind regardless of what you think.Even if he did change his mind the fact that he withheld the information speaks volumes doesn’t it especially in his position at the time.
This the same guy who pushed Iraq into war on false claims which resulted in ~4m deaths and displacements - you are trusting him are you
I gave you solid advice earlier, I’d loath to see you hiding behind the sofa.
Given that the "has had" headline came from a completely different Guardian article than the one he posted. Indeed there are 12 years between them, I think you have your answer!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...23/uk.research
In your opinion, Lardy , sorry CEA , what’s funny though is that if you read an assumed story you agree with it , but if a person with a different opinion posts an assumed story you don’t
In conclusion ( which you have failed to mention) :-
The impact of this issue on immunisation levels is hard to measure in isolation but uptake certainly fell in the wake of the publicity (Fitzpatrick, 2004). There is nothing more to say in response the statement- There appears to be overwhelming evidence that, because of his profile at the time, he may have caused deaths in children (with the reduced uptake)
If you want to defend him then you’re a hypocrite.
Let's just do this one step at a time
Could you help me find the bit in those articles where Blair opposed the vaccines?
Without sounding like I’m repeating myself , I’m not your personal google search engine
This tends to speak volumes - inverted commas , basically as assumption
Blair baby 'has had' MMR jab
Hahahahahahaha you do this every single time. You spout utter nonsense, make a claim. Others ask for evidence of your claim, you reply 'google it', we then Google it and find nothing about the drivel you're speaking about.
No offence but this is coming from a kid who is too sacred to have kids because of climate change
I bet you have a secret crush of Greta , she a great actress.
It's a great retort, I can see why you use it at least every other day. But it doesn't really fit here, as I'm asking you about two articles that you posted on here. Where in those articles does Blair oppose vaccines?
I’ve already replied bra , did you consider the BBC websites after. I tell you what’s really good about them , anything that’s against the official narrative is usually subjected to moderation, that would be great for you.
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