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Thread: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

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    Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Apology for Wales football fans over post-match rail delays https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67496716

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Seeing as the Welsh Government wants us to ditch our cars the provision for midweek city games is pretty poor anyway. I normally take the car for midweek games as too often there is inadequate provision for the valley lines.

    Surely it's no rocket science to lay on a few extra trains from Grangetown or Central

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    The network was basically built for wealth extraction, with all the wealth going to london.

    Same with the railways the British government built in India - to extract the countries wealth.

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    Its ridiculous. The network copes with broken down trains or cancelled services and corrects itself, so it clearly could lay on some extra services or carriages, that people would pay for remember! These games are known many weeks or months in advance.

    It just goes to show the sustainabilty push is often more words than actions.

    That said..I do regularly get the train from Grangetown on Saturday games and I think its a decent service.

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Just a thought.

    Why aren’t trains required to keep to the 20 mph speed limit?

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by light up the darkness View Post
    Just a thought.

    Why aren’t trains required to keep to the 20 mph speed limit?
    Because they're so knackered they can't go that fast up the valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    The network was basically built for wealth extraction, with all the wealth going to london.

    Same with the railways the British government built in India - to extract the countries wealth.
    Nothing wrong with a business led approach, providing wealth trickles down which it has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Nothing wrong with a business led approach, providing wealth trickles down which it has.
    And Wales gets the final drop wrung out of the stinking flannel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Nothing wrong with a business led approach, providing wealth trickles down which it has.
    Is that your view as a conservative or a general opinion you agree with ?

    The problem with your statement of fact is included within it

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by fingers View Post
    Apology for Wales football fans over post-match rail delays https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67496716
    Embarrassing

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Is that your view as a conservative or a general opinion you agree with ?

    The problem with your statement of fact is included within it
    It's just a fact, whether i agree with it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Nothing wrong with a business led approach, providing wealth trickles down which it has.
    When and where has the wealth "trickled down"? I would have thought that the austerity years have proved the opposite applies, I suppose pensioners haven't done too badly, but all that's happened there is that they've kept pace with inflation while the large majority of the working population have not.

    As for the real subject of this thread, what a shocking admission to make, even though most knew about it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    When and where has the wealth "trickled down"? I would have thought that the austerity years have proved the opposite applies, I suppose pensioners haven't done too badly, but all that's happened there is that they've kept pace with inflation while the large majority of the working population have not.

    As for the real subject of this thread, what a shocking admission to make, even though most knew about it already.
    I suppose the trickle down argument was won during the cold war. Soviet Union living standards were far lower than the capitalist nations. I'm not some raving capitalist but those countries do seem to produce good overall living standards for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    I suppose the trickle down argument was won during the cold war. Soviet Union living standards were far lower than the capitalist nations. I'm not some raving capitalist but those countries do seem to produce good overall living standards for everyone.
    For everyone? Thatís a statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Nothing wrong with a business led approach, providing wealth trickles down which it has.
    Wealth trickles down is the biggest pile of muck. It doesnít happen, ever. It is easily debunked.

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    its a state run railway, what does anyone expect? WG controls the airport (shite) and the trains (shite) and its getting worse.

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by HiVis View Post
    its a state run railway, what does anyone expect? WG controls the airport (shite) and the trains (shite) and its getting worse.
    Did you expect all the problems to be sorted overnight? There's a long term plan which will take a few more years yet. It's vital work. Things couldn't have carried on as they were with ATW.

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Iíve always found it daft the Coryton/Radyr train is usually only a single carriage.

    After the first few stops itís standing room only and the guard canít collect or check tickets. They must be missing out on a good few grand every matchday. From a financial perspective surely they can hook up a spare carriage and rota in an extra member of staff on a matchday?

    Donít get me wrong, itís nice that 95% of my journeys to Ninian Park in the last 2 decades have been free

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Wealth trickles down is the biggest pile of muck. It doesnít happen, ever. It is easily debunked.
    Tbf I have recently heard a critique of trickle down economics but it was on a left wing programme. Completely biased so i wasn't entirely convinced

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Tbf I have recently heard a critique of trickle down economics but it was on a left wing programme. Completely biased so i wasn't entirely convinced
    But because you've heard it on a right wing platform, you are convinced?

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    But because you've heard it on a right wing platform, you are convinced?
    Nah, I'm more convinced by looking at the living standards of the old Soviet Union, compared to their counterparts across the globe

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    The network was basically built for wealth extraction, with all the wealth going to london.

    Same with the railways the British government built in India - to extract the countries wealth.
    absolutely correct

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    There is a valid argument that if the wealth was spread more evenly, the there would be no need for ďtrickling downĒ
    There is also a counter argument, that the more wealth you share, the more certain folk would still fritter it away wastefully and soon be struggling again.

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Tbf I have recently heard a critique of trickle down economics but it was on a left wing programme. Completely biased so i wasn't entirely convinced
    Trickle down economics has been used by most of the west in the last 30/40 years. The rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer. Giving tax cuts to the rich and privatising public services is a terrible, terrible idea unless youíre extremely rich to begin with.

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    Re: Welsh railway bosses admit they have traditionally focused more on rugby

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    But because you've heard it on a right wing platform, you are convinced?
    mid week train to Cwmbran 21 55 next train 00 23
    Whether or Not your on the right wing left wing up front in goal They dont give a **** about football.

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