20mph, summed up by a holidaymaker

[BLUETIT]

Never to return

https://apple.news/ANhk5sg_nTzizBPFPf_05BA

[North Cardiff Blue]

Never to return

https://apple.news/ANhk5sg_nTzizBPFPf_05BA

It's bound to happen, why put up with that when there are alternatives in Cornwall, Devon and the Cotswolds, they are happily damaging the tourist economy for a whim, we are different in Wales butt, worse but different see!

[The Bloop]

20mph summed up by a holidaymaker who lives in part of the world where 20mph is being rolled out by its own council.
Bless him. Next year he'll be taking the kids on a tour of the M25.

[North Cardiff Blue]

20mph summed up by a holidaymaker who lives in part of the world where 20mph is being rolled out by its own council.
Bless him. Next year he'll be taking the kids on a tour of the M25.

[superfeathers]

Intrepid reporter will Hayward knew it was going to be his day, as rumours of the news rippling through wales online was confirmed to be true.

“A man came to Wales on holiday and wrote a letter about 20mph because he was so angry”

As he wrote the headline he knew it was going to be the story of the year. A retired builder visiting Wales was annoyed about something. It was his sixth trip meaning that Wales will miss out on his grey pound, which being generous would average out as once every ten years. It could’ve been another two trips if it hadn’t been for the blasted speed limit.

The man who was “sure (I) was a danger to pedestrians and and errant drivers”, complained that he was creating more pollution at 20mph and also complained about travelling at 50mph instead of 70 despite the latter being implemented to reduce pollution. He didn’t understand the irony as he was trying to help his wife who somehow had managed to get herself “glued to the satnav”. He now intends to demonstrate his lack of ability to control his polluting delica on faster roads elsewhere. Much to the annoyance of about 4 Cardiff city fans.

Tell you what mind, an idea to make the roads a bit safer what about retesting the over 65s?

[light up the darkness]

Ageist! Reported

[North Cardiff Blue]

Intrepid reporter will Hayward knew it was going to be his day, as rumours of the news rippling through wales online was confirmed to be true.

“A man came to Wales on holiday and wrote a letter about 20mph because he was so angry”

As he wrote the headline he knew it was going to be the story of the year. A retired builder visiting Wales was annoyed about something. It was his sixth trip meaning that Wales will miss out on his grey pound, which being generous would average out as once every ten years. It could’ve been another two trips if it hadn’t been for the blasted speed limit.

The man who was “sure (I) was a danger to pedestrians and and errant drivers”, complained that he was creating more pollution at 20mph and also complained about travelling at 50mph instead of 70 despite the latter being implemented to reduce pollution. He didn’t understand the irony as he was trying to help his wife who somehow had managed to get herself “glued to the satnav”. He now intends to demonstrate his lack of ability to control his polluting delica on faster roads elsewhere. Much to the annoyance of about 4 Cardiff city fans.

Tell you what mind, an idea to make the roads a bit safer what about retesting the over 65s?

Nice one how to upset all your old leftie mates

Wouldn't affect me other than getting some of the 20mph dodderers out of the way.

[Tuerto]

Intrepid reporter will Hayward knew it was going to be his day, as rumours of the news rippling through wales online was confirmed to be true.

“A man came to Wales on holiday and wrote a letter about 20mph because he was so angry”

As he wrote the headline he knew it was going to be the story of the year. A retired builder visiting Wales was annoyed about something. It was his sixth trip meaning that Wales will miss out on his grey pound, which being generous would average out as once every ten years. It could’ve been another two trips if it hadn’t been for the blasted speed limit.

The man who was “sure (I) was a danger to pedestrians and and errant drivers”, complained that he was creating more pollution at 20mph and also complained about travelling at 50mph instead of 70 despite the latter being implemented to reduce pollution. He didn’t understand the irony as he was trying to help his wife who somehow had managed to get herself “glued to the satnav”. He now intends to demonstrate his lack of ability to control his polluting delica on faster roads elsewhere. Much to the annoyance of about 4 Cardiff city fans.

Tell you what mind, an idea to make the roads a bit safer what about retesting the over 65s?

I would agree with that. Many pensioners are an absolute menace. Moaning all of the time, taking out of the system when they had it easy. I'd probably ban them from driving and make them use public transport, but only at specific times so that they can all moan about everything (ON the Bus) together. Oh yeah, and the 60s and 70s were shite-Probably.

[splott parker]

I would agree with that. Many pensioners are an absolute menace. Moaning all of the time, taking out of the system when they had it easy. I'd probably ban them from driving and make them use public transport, but only at specific times so that they can all moan about everything (ON the Bus) together. Oh yeah, and the 60s and 70s were shite-Probably.

Hey man, if you can remember the 60s man, you weren’t there man

[superfeathers]

I would agree with that. Many pensioners are an absolute menace. Moaning all of the time, taking out of the system when they had it easy. I'd probably ban them from driving and make them use public transport, but only at specific times so that they can all moan about everything (ON the Bus) together. Oh yeah, and the 60s and 70s were shite-Probably.

I have to agree.
Give them set times to use supermarkets so they don’t stand in your way too. They were happy to use certain slots during covid, around 10/11am would be good. Maybe give them a special board on ccmb that is dedicated to talking about lockdowns from years ago, their lost liberties and hints and tips on how to change gears

As for the retests make pay at the pump part of the test. That’ll get plenty more off the roads and stop us all hanging round while Brian gets his werthers originals. Give them a timer on the air pressure machine

Safer roads
Less congestion
Less pollution

[Cleve van Leef]

Intrepid reporter will Hayward knew it was going to be his day, as rumours of the news rippling through wales online was confirmed to be true.

“A man came to Wales on holiday and wrote a letter about 20mph because he was so angry”

As he wrote the headline he knew it was going to be the story of the year. A retired builder visiting Wales was annoyed about something. It was his sixth trip meaning that Wales will miss out on his grey pound, which being generous would average out as once every ten years. It could’ve been another two trips if it hadn’t been for the blasted speed limit.

The man who was “sure (I) was a danger to pedestrians and and errant drivers”, complained that he was creating more pollution at 20mph and also complained about travelling at 50mph instead of 70 despite the latter being implemented to reduce pollution. He didn’t understand the irony as he was trying to help his wife who somehow had managed to get herself “glued to the satnav”. He now intends to demonstrate his lack of ability to control his polluting delica on faster roads elsewhere. Much to the annoyance of about 4 Cardiff city fans.

Tell you what mind, an idea to make the roads a bit safer what about retesting the over 65s?

And what about re-testing the morons such as, lorry drivers tailgating, morons who consistently cut up other drivers and maniacs who just have to get in front of you.

[SOXY BOY]

He’s lucky he didn’t go to Aberthin, in the Vale of Glamorgan, where there are 8 different speed limits in 2 miles.

[MacAdder]

I would agree with that. Many pensioners are an absolute menace. Moaning all of the time, taking out of the system when they had it easy. I'd probably ban them from driving and make them use public transport, but only at specific times so that they can all moan about everything (ON the Bus) together. Oh yeah, and the 60s and 70s were shite-Probably.

Or should it be

[Tuerto]

Or should it be

You're decent, i'll spare you if i ever get into power

[Doucas]

Ah the 2023 version of 'and they all switched to Welsh as soon as I walked into the pub'.

[Dorcus]

Gets my vote. Is there a special Day in a persons life when they start getting annoyed with pretty much everything? The other day (On here) one of the old farts was annoyed about leaves falling from trees. Is there a starting point i wonder? cracks in pavements, then on to cycle lanes, Road works, and finally speed limits, in an already built up congested area. If i ever end up that way then i give my kids permission to shoot me in the face.

I think that's the age one turns Tory. Heaven forbid what a ghastly thought!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

It's been a couple of months since the 20mph speed limits were introduced and I thought it was time for a reflection. I was against the proposal to have a blanket 20mph roll out.

I live near Aberdare. It would be safe to suggest that, here at least, very few drivers actually stick to 20mph where the limit requires. It has had the effect of stopping drivers doing 35-40 in 30mph zones, it's rare to see a car doing more than 30 now. That has to be one good thing.

28 in a 30 zone barely feels like slowing down. 18 in a 20 zone feels painfully slow. There are a handful of drivers who are overcautious and don't quite reach 20mph, which feels very annoying. I could happily cope with someone doing a few mph below 30. On the odd occasions when I have to drive at 20, I seem to be wanting to make progress as soon as I have the opportunity. I want to get where I'm going. Around me, side streets and back roads are busier than they used to be. Where traffic sticks to 20mph, it seems to create more bottlenecks and impatience.

I notice that some roads are returning to 30mph, particularly if they're arterial roads that need a flow of traffic. Hopkinstown is 30mph all the way along, which totally rubbishes any other main road being reduced to 20.

Another issue that I seem to encounter around here is that people are driving more slowly on 40 and 50mph roads. I've seen people doing 20 in 30 zones when it's been quiet. There seems to be some confusion among motorists with speed limits - strange as we've never had so many signs. I just think some drivers don't even look at signs.

I'll repeat that it has had the effect of slowing traffic down a bit in built up areas, which is a good thing. It hasn't stopped boy racers or idiots on the road though. They'll still create most accidents, regardless of speed limits.

[Gofer Blue]

It has had the effect of stopping drivers doing 35-40 in 30mph zones, it's rare to see a car doing more than 30 now. That has to be one good thing.

Same where we are. There is one long stretch which was 40mph originally but was reduced to 30mph several years back. To be fair it was a bit of a nonsense really as there are no houses along there. Unfortunately the LA were too mean to put repeater signs along the road so up until recently most folk were driving at 40 - 45mph along there, but now are strictly observing the 30mph limit.

[Bruce Parry]

I still can’t get my head around the backlash. 90% of the roads you use are 40+, it’s had very little impact on me.

[JamesWales]

We definitely needed a new thread on this!

How many months in now? Three? It seems to me that barely anyone is following it, and it's notable and annoying, if anyone does and it that road is long and straight I'm seeing more dangerous overtaking.

I've not seen any enforcement of it tbh. I thought we would, but I haven't seen or heard of any so I don't know if the councils are keeping their heads down?

It's all just a rather stupid, I'll thought out and expensive policy from the Welsh Govt. Another one to add to the list.

[BLUETIT]

Seen a beauty yesterday
On North Road, there’s a turning left into Newfoundland Road, it only runs for about 10/15 yards before it’s blocked off by bollards.

Council workmen were only putting up 20mph signs on the entrance

What a waste of OUR MONEY

[Tuerto]

Seen a beauty yesterday
On North Road, there’s a turning left into Newfoundland Road, it only runs for about 10/15 yards before it’s blocked off by bollards.

Council workmen were only putting up 20mph signs on the entrance

What a waste of OUR MONEY

I've never known someone see so much that suits their argument as you do. And it's not your money.

[Cyclops]

Another illogical situation:
Travelling along Pantmawr Road from The Hollybush end, just short of Manor Way (A470) there are two 40 mph signs. If you go straight on up Pantmawr Road, it's immediately 20 mph. If you turn right towards the city, it's immediately 30 mph. The only road that is 40 mph is when you turn left onto the A 470.

I was almost caught out at this junction on a dark, wet night. For the first time in months, I had to turn right towards Cardiff. I thought the speed limit here was 40 mph until Caedelyn Road.... and the sign on Pantmawr Road says 40 mph as I've pointed out. I drove along Manor Way at around 36 mph and in the distance, before the camera, I saw a small 30 mph sign on a lamp post, and braked. I later retraced my journey. There are two 30 mph signs immediately after the junction. Because of the line you take to turn right (and concentrating on not hitting kerbs), the 30 mph sign in the middle of the carriageway on your shoulder and is virtually invisible. Continuing the manoevre, you then approach the other 30 mph sign which is side-on and can't be read. Then there are no 30 mph lamp posts signs for around 100 metres.

I know I'm prattlin' on here, but it really annoyed me. All they had to do is site the 30 mph signs say 20 metres away from the junction, which would make them visible.

I wonder how a stranger would negotiate this - and I know at least one guy has hit a curb there on a dark night turning right.

(I feel a great sense of relief getting this off my chest )

[Cleve van Leef]

Another illogical situation:
Travelling along Pantmawr Road from The Hollybush end, just short of Manor Way (A470) there are two 40 mph signs. If you go straight on up Pantmawr Road, it's immediately 20 mph. If you turn right towards the city, it's immediately 30 mph. The only road that is 40 mph is when you turn left onto the A 470.

I was almost caught out at this junction on a dark, wet night. For the first time in months, I had to turn right towards Cardiff. I thought the speed limit here was 40 mph until Caedelyn Road.... and the sign on Pantmawr Road says 40 mph as I've pointed out. I drove along Manor Way at around 36 mph and in the distance, before the camera, I saw a small 30 mph sign on a lamp post, and braked. I later retraced my journey. There are two 30 mph signs immediately after the junction. Because of the line you take to turn right (and concentrating on not hitting kerbs), the 30 mph sign in the middle of the carriageway on your shoulder and is virtually invisible. Continuing the manoevre, you then approach the other 30 mph sign which is side-on and can't be read. Then there are no 30 mph lamp posts signs for around 100 metres.

I know I'm prattlin' on here, but it really annoyed me. All they had to do is site the 30 mph signs say 20 metres away from the junction, which would make them visible.

I wonder how a stranger would negotiate this - and I know at least one guy has hit a curb there on a dark night turning right.

(I feel a great sense of relief getting this off my chest )

And what about the signs that are “greyed” out with no sign stating the actual speed limit?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I still can’t get my head around the backlash. 90% of the roads you use are 40+, it’s had very little impact on me.

Depends where you live. If you're in the Rhondda, there aren't many 40mph+ roads.