Reply With Quotehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_BroadOriginally Posted by Jordi Culé
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I've already said the whole SPOTY thing is for fuucking weirdos.
It's a public vote, bit like I'm a Celebrity, Big Brother etc.
I don't take any interest in them either.
What does Stuart Broad do?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Broad
He was in a team then that didn't win anything this year?
Impressive career. I don't watch cricket really.
In 1999, Marina Hyde married Kieran Clifton, a director at the BBC - What a surprise
Really can't see the fuss, or where the likes of Barton and Morgan are coming from. Her performances in the summer were pretty incredible. It's probably fair to say that she played her sport better than most others played theirs this year.
That Barton is a grade A tosser. Going back a few years ago I always wondered if he was a complete waste of space, or a mostly decent bloke who struggled to control himself and his anger at times. I think the answer has become pretty obvious over the years. Sad to see there are still some out there who seem to think he's worth listening too
You really dislike women don’t you?In 1999, Marina Hyde married Kieran Clifton, a director at the BBC - What a surprise
‘Pretty incredible’?
Oh dear…..
I don't understand your issue. You're going to have to enlighten me
well playing every minute of all 7 games in the World Cup finals and only conceding four goals while keeping 3 clean sheets just isnt good enough, she conceded 4 goals, what was she playing at
If only she was a man, that would have been seen as ‘Pretty incredible’
He’s probably never been near one sexually
There would be much more merit in what you are saying if the level and quality of women's football was anywhere near the mens game. Unfortunately women's football s currently at a level equivalent to mens pub football, so to make out that Earps achievements are in any way better than average is a serious misrepresentation of her ability.well playing every minute of all 7 games in the World Cup finals and only conceding four goals while keeping 3 clean sheets just isnt good enough, she conceded 4 goals, what was she playing at
If only she was a man, that would have been seen as ‘Pretty incredible’
If the award was 'worlds best goalkeeper' then I'd kind of see your point. But we're talking about sports personality of the year. If every other athlete is being judged against their peers in their own sport, why should womens footballers be judged any differently?
Serena williams shouldn't really get the credit that she does because the top 100 men in Tennis would beat her.
Is it really about her performance or does she just represent the collective group that has increased girls' participation in the world biggest and greatest game?
It was a limited public vote, let's think about it.
A- Women footballer with 1000's of young girls starting to play with all that youthfull enthusiasm
B- An unbelievable (female) athlete, but its a niche sport not in an Olympic year
C- A disabled athlete
D- A jockey in his 50's
E- A golfer who barely visits these shores and didn't bother with any of the promotional faff
F- A cricketer who didn't regain the ashes, as if the "barmy army" would do anything as crass as vote in SPOTY.
Its a popularity contest. No one likes Citeh so mens football is out. The Tennis players haven't done anything. Its not an Olympic year.The dutch have F1 sawn up and boxing is a mess and behind massive paywalls.
Anyway Bellingham next year, so it will calm the old lads down
I think that our definitions of ‘unbelievable’ are miles and miles apart.
You must live in a constant dream world. Lucky you!
She's had the biggest influence over any of the other nominees without a doubt. She also has a massive following on Instagram, and those followers are the people who vote these days. Gone are the days of writing a name on the back of postcard and sending it off to Broadcasting House.
I hope that KJT wins Gold in Paris next year and she wins the award. I doubt that any female footballers will be nominated.
The ‘honour the vote’ brigade are surely not now complaining.
From a man who achieved what exactly?
Ever played in a WC?
Ever represented your country?
Ever played pro sport?
Ever played at county level?
Or are you just a nobody on the internet who calls pro players rubbish yet couldn’t tap a bag of sand?
I didn't win, But I've represented my country.
Marina Hyde is definitely one of the most on point journalists out there. You really think her husband/BBC influences her writing?In 1999, Marina Hyde married Kieran Clifton, a director at the BBC - What a surprise
There really are some low people on this thread. England women get to a final, she saves a penalty and people don't don't like it because woman aren't as strong or fast and have less attention than men. And SPOTY? Who ****ing cares?
Injunctions perhaps?
It's a bonkers argument isn't it. You've got to be careful these days with comments like this, but I'm going to say it anyway because it's true - there's a reason why women have been called "the weaker sex". It's because, when it comes to many sports it's particular, they are. A look at world records in athletics for example would show you that - there are sports where women seem to be able to compete on an equal footing with men (equestrian events for example), but I'd say that in most men would dominate because, especially at elite level sport, they tend to be stronger and faster.
Therefore, in the majority of competitive sports a woman can only strive to be the best in her gender, rather than the best on the planet. In the case of Mary Earps, it seems to me that she has done a good job in proving that she's the best goalkeeper in women's football currently and she appears to have something about her as well which ties in with the "personality" aspect of the award. There doesn't appear to be much more she can do to improve her standing in women's football, so why should she be excluded from consideration for a sports personality of the year award just because she's a woman?
Comments like this only prove Hyde right.In 1999, Marina Hyde married Kieran Clifton, a director at the BBC - What a surprise
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