1993 Bodin that worked out well didn’t itOriginally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
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1993 Bodin that worked out well didn’t it
Aye, but he'd scored lots that season, including the game before. He leathered it. I doubt there have been many harder hit penalties than that. The distance it travelled after it hit the bar was incredible. He didn't miss it because he wasn't a forward.
I'm not suggesting that other players can't be good penalty takers. I'm saying a centre forward should be able to score a penalty and certainly shouldn't be afraid of taking one. It's kicking the ball into the goal. From 12 yards. They do it from all over the place with people in front of them and people trying to take the ball from them.
That's an interesting take. I've thought penalties were more about technique and bottle. Some strikers are great finishers of chances provided to them, getting on the end of crosses, using movement to create a tap in. Striking a dead ball from 12 yards is very different in some ways. How many strikers are good at scoring long range goals? Probably not that many, but some are capable of brilliant moments of skill to score goals.
Target man? Do you know what a target man is?
He missed it because he couldn’t handle the pressure and wasn’t a big game player. Changes his usual penalty taking style in the biggest moment of his life.
Dean Saunders took many penalties and has a 90% success rate.
Any forward worth his salts should demand to be on penalties. You won’t see the likes of Kane, Ronaldo or Lewandowski passing the buck to a team mate.
It was his usual style, though. Laces through the ball. I have no doubt that he gave it absolutely everything because it meant so much.
Should we nominate Callum Robinson as penalty taker?
Since when was 12 yards long range?
How many strikers take free kicks from distance? Same sort of principle, striking a non-moving ball. The strikers you mention could also hit a free kick.
Not the same principal at all most free kicks are twice the distance of a penalty
But lots of forwards don't like taking them. Some do. I understand your thinking that they should relish them as that's their job, but it's not as simple as that.
I don’t think we will be seeing much of Robinson moving forward so probably best not to
Out of context. I’m not saying they can’t be any good. Haaland is as good as anyone on the spot too.
But just because a person is a striker doesn’t mean them best placed or naturally better than some others.
You implied that target men don’t take penalties when loads do / have done
Grant Holt, Chris Wood, Ashley Barnes there’s another 3 who have scored over 80 penalties between them.
If you haven’t got confidence to take a free shot from 12 yards, just you versus the goalkeeper, then you shouldn’t be playing as a forward. That’s why the best forwards are usually on penalties.
Look at Salah earlier this week missed one v Newcastle then shrugs it off and scores another one later in the game. Not a chance anyone else was taking it even though I have no doubt the likes of TAA and others have the technical ability to take them. All good forwards need to have that single minded confidence.
Now that's an interesting take. Lots dont.
I agree they only need to perfect six to eight spots, vary them walk up and smack it, if it's hard enough and close enough to the corner they are unsavable. I think they all should have the technique it comes down to handling the pressure and ignoring everything else around them, like the best professional golfers can do when they take a game-winning putt.
Some footballers can do that, most of ours obviously can't but they can work with sports physiologists and improve it, there has to be someone, but it may not be a Striker.
I can name loads of penalty takers that aren’t the number 9 either. My point being is just because he’s a forward doesn’t make him good and pens. And just because someones not a forward doesn’t make them worse than the Grant Holts of this world.
Should Sergio Ramos never have taken penalties?
You could argue in an empty room.
No one is saying non forwards can’t take penalties you’re just moving the goalposts.
You made a ridiculous point in the first place just take the mare on the chin.
Etete scored 4 out of 4 pens whilst playing as a for Spurs in the PL2 league so it’s sad that he doesn’t have the confidence to put himself forward for one of the penalties yesterday, especially when he really needs a goal and has gone over 3 months without one.
I didn't realise that. A goal, even from a penalty, could be a big confidence booster. It's why, I think, Jones gave Whitts penalty duties in 2009 instead of McCormack.
Who’s to say he doesn’t have the confidence, aren’t these things usually decided before a game.
If they are decided before the game how come we had two different penalty takers? You really think with a cobbled together rotated side two different penalty takers were chosen before the game ? Lol
If the nominated penalty taker didn’t fancy the second pen I’d expect a forward who hasn’t scored for 3 months to be demanding to take it
I've no idea how these things are decided but everyone seemed to know who was taking the second one. When Etete gets brought down he's still on his backside looking at the ref while Robinson is sprinting over from the left wing to pick up the ball, which had rolled over the byline. Robinson marches to the spot with it while Wintle goes straight to Etete (presumably to congratulate him) and then walks away. There doesn't seem to be any confusion among the City players about whose penalty it was.
Seems a bit harsh to criticise Etete without knowing all the details. How do we know if he doesn't fancy it or if he wants to take one but is getting overruled behind the scenes? It's a sorry sight when players are wrestling for the ball before a penalty, I'd like to think City have got this side of things sorted. Even if the actual taking of them is still a work in progress.
I take your wider point about strikers and penalties when it comes to a shoot-out but I think it's a bit more complex than that during a game. Here's a list of the six who got to a hundred Premier League goals without scoring a penalty, probably a different reason for each of them.
https://thefootballfaithful.com/appr...ing-a-penalty/
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I like your ‘kind’ assessment, ‘taking them is a work in progress’. It’s a pelanty, hardly a 17 year old being gradually blooded
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