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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Should be fine, I doubt they've got wills written.
    Im also hearing that murder is illegal so looks like they've got every angle covered

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    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-huge-28722487

    Cardiff Council could face a huge fine if it does not go ahead with controversial changes to the way it collects waste and recycling in the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Today was collection day - except it isn't!
    As I suspected, all the new recycling has been postponed until tomorrow (at least)
    I have heard unconfirmed news that the council doesn't yet have enough of the new lorries that keep the different materials separate - so in some cases, your carefully separated recycling wase is being dumped into old lorries so it is mixed up again!
    Doesn't surprise me. The council didn't have enough of the new lorries for the trial period that started in 2022, so those households had to separate their recycling, the bin men threw it all in the same compartment in the lorry, and then it was taken to Lamby Way to be sorted again. Typical of Cardiff Council to take a good idea on paper and implement it badly.

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    Has Cardiff Council always annoyed you Cardiff residents ?

    What about the days of the liberal bloke Rodney Berman ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    So if 'we don't need billiionaires' we don't need to take more of their wealth. Sorted.
    Or if they paid people a bit more, they'd hardly miss it, we could spend a bit less on welfare etc. Universal Credit is basically topping up poor pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Or if they paid people a bit more, they'd hardly miss it, we could spend a bit less on welfare etc. Universal Credit is basically topping up poor pay.
    Denise Coates paid half a billion pounds in income tax. Her company employs 7000 people, most of whom pay tax & NI. Her businesses pay hundreds of millions in corporation tax. Tell her she'll 'hardly miss' another Ł50 million and she could well tell the govt. where to go and move to Guernsey etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Denise Coates paid half a billion pounds in income tax. Her company employs 7000 people, most of whom pay tax & NI. Her businesses pay hundreds of millions in corporation tax. Tell her she'll 'hardly miss' another Ł50 million and she could well tell the govt. where to go and move to Guernsey etc.
    She's the top (or 2nd depending where you read) tax payer in the UK. Yet she's only 16th on the rich list according to this
    https://www.independent.co.uk/money/...-b2341903.html


    Shouldn't the wealthiest be paying most tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    She's the top (or 2nd depending where you read) tax payer in the UK. Yet she's only 16th on the rich list according to this
    https://www.independent.co.uk/money/...-b2341903.html


    Shouldn't the wealthiest be paying most tax?
    I've often thought that like food hygiene ratings that businesses have to display on their premises, companies should also have to display a score based on how much of their tax they are paying in this country.
    Funnel it all through some offshore tax haven - its not illegal but consumers should be able to see clearly that's what you're doing so they can make a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Denise Coates paid half a billion pounds in income tax. Her company employs 7000 people, most of whom pay tax & NI. Her businesses pay hundreds of millions in corporation tax. Tell her she'll 'hardly miss' another Ł50 million and she could well tell the govt. where to go and move to Guernsey etc.
    Are a proportion of that 7000 claiming ‘top up’ benefits due to low wages? Benefits that come out of the public purse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Or if they paid people a bit more, they'd hardly miss it, we could spend a bit less on welfare etc. Universal Credit is basically topping up poor pay.
    exactly, we allow billionaires to pay poverty wages that are propped up by the taxpayer. if you work full time you used to be able to live a decent life, afford a home, have a stay at home parent etc, these things are now in the past because more and more of the wealth is being absorbed by the greedy few at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Thats what happens the leader eats the most and the others in the group then get some when he lets them, then if they find another group near their food they kick the shit out of them, we are all animals.
    https://equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-e...-inequality-uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

    Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

    As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

    Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

    Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

    As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

    Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.
    You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

    The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

    The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.
    No I do care, but there is nothing very much I can do about it other than pay my taxes and hope some get's redirected their way.

    What are you doing about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    No I do care, but there is nothing very much I can do about it other than pay my taxes and hope some get's redirected their way.

    What are you doing about it?
    Well, you care enough not to be even vocal about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    You're failing to grasp that we shouldn't just accept it as it is. Feck me, things are worse in the UK for most people than they were 20 years ago even though there's more money about.

    The one thing that does sadden me here is that you really don't give a shit about those at the bottom. To you, it's nature's order that they need to be there. What a shit attitude to have.
    You love to gaslight people don't you!!

    Here you are once again saying someone doesn't care, you were doing this to me until you decided to ignore me.

    Oh and, without order Eric we descend into chaos. Humans work better within a hierarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    It's growing computers, online businesses are part of the exponential growth in some areas, and money goes to money is still true and alive and kicking, so the top end is always moving forward.

    Then traditional businesses are in decline and wealth there is decreasing, and we have five generations of families that will never see the need to work, and all forms of immigration, some coming right in at the top, but more adding to the lower wealth contingent.

    As you've said it's worse in America and I've seen it's similar in most of Europe, but you'll never stop it, the same happens with bigger gaps in communist countries, the people at the top grab all the wealth and power.

    Lions do the same the King has all the lionesses and the best food, we are animals.
    Historically, when inequality reaches a certain level usually something dramatic happens, an uprising, a revolution. It has happened many times before and we are close to that kind of inequality today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Historically, when inequality reaches a certain level usually something dramatic happens, an uprising, a revolution. It has happened many times before and we are close to that kind of inequality today.
    Yes that's factual, I think constant protests are the start of something different, will politicians and governments change or take notice time will tell?

    They used to say we need a good war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Yes that's factual, I think constant protests are the start of something different, will politicians and governments change or take notice time will tell?

    They used to say we need a good war.
    The last ‘civil war’ in this country chucked generations on the scrap heap. No sustainable, long term, decent employment to replace lost jobs resulting in many having to rely on hand outs & benefits to exist ad infinitum. Her war against the ‘enemy within’ is still reverberating to this day, while the rich get richer.

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    Llanishen
    Green bag collection cancelled at 5.00pm today !!!!!

    Streets full of them, gulls, crows and foxes will have a field day.

    (They can smell the cans and paper that tossers don’t wash clean)

    Now supposedly Monday collection

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    ...And it's been postponed AGAIN!!
    Now scheduled for Monday - closer to next Thursday than last, so I'll be surprised if they don't cancel it altogether and just pick it up on Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    ...And it's been postponed AGAIN!!
    Now scheduled for Monday - closer to next Thursday than last, so I'll be surprised if they don't cancel it altogether and just pick it up on Thursday.
    The trucks that are split in two are in for a repair, so today they are mixing all the bags together anyway so splitting the recycling has been a waste of our time.

    The binmen must hate all this extra hassle how long till they are back out on strike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    The trucks that are split in two are in for a repair, so today they are mixing all the bags together anyway so splitting the recycling has been a waste of our time.

    The binmen must hate all this extra hassle how long till they are back out on strike?
    I saw a few of those split trucks out last week, I think perhaps they just don't have enough for all of Cardiff yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I saw a few of those split trucks out last week, I think perhaps they just don't have enough for all of Cardiff yet
    I saw a message from the counsellor, the Dennis split trucks are all in for repair, they considered separate trucks for Red and then another truck for Blue, but they don't have the resources to do that.

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    Meanwhile, the green recycling bags in Llanishen, are spread all the streets, having been attacked by the gulls & crows

    It like a rubbish dump out there

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