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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Jon, i was referencing a recent thread where you attempted mental gymnastics to defend that Labour candidate and summarised by implying the real enemy was white Nationlists even though the protagonist was Asian and the target of his thoughts was Jewish. Not sure what fascism or white people had to do with it. Although you didn't explicitly use the word white, that's what you was getting at, read it yourself.

    As for Normon Lamont, productivity in the public sector hasn't recovered since covid yet it has recovered in the private sector. This lag has in part caused the recession and contradicts your view in another thread where you and Doucas claimed the public sector had higher productivity, using some study on the NHS as your example.
    Bloody hell!

    Are you referring to my post where I did anything but defend the Labour candidate. I said he should have been dumped earlier.

    I did point out that the Israeli government had had intelligence of the Hamas attack more than a year in advance (and again more recently) but didn't believe Hamas had the capability to carry out the attack - so the conspiracy theories were wild and unjustified. I also referred to a history of recent provocations by Israeli settlers and the government - trying to draw a reaction of some kind they could use - and pointed out the presence in the Israeli government of fascists. I didn't mention 'white nationalism'.

    I honestly do not remember any post I (or Doucas) made claiming the public sector had higher productivity than the private sector - wit or without the NHS. But if I did, what relevance does that have to the thread or the post you replied to? Answer - none!

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Wasn't Black Wednesday when George Soros and his mates devalued our currency and made a killing? Or was that another occasion? Yet you want to imply it was Lamont's incompetence
    Yes - happy to imply (no, not imply - claim) the Black Wednesday melt down was the responsibility of the Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time.

    That was Nigel Lamont not George Soros. Look it up.

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I am constantly amazed that someone who has values of caring for others can vote conservative

    Can't you see the irony ?
    What a ridiculously gross generalisation!

    In my lifetime I have voted Conservative, Labour, Liberal (before they became the Liberal Democrats) and Green Party, depending on who I thought had the best policies at the time. This time, so far, I would be classified as undecided as I have no idea at the moment. Yes the Conservatives have really made a mess but I don't see any incredible salvation coming our way from Labour. If they do get a working majority in the 2024 election I think they will constantly play the "look at the mess we inherited" card to explain why they are not able to fix things quite as easily/quickly as Joe Public will expect. It's very easy to criticise when in opposition!

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    Re: In recession.

    Nigel Lawson or Norman Lamont.
    I know Soros devalued our currency causing chaos, making a fortune, and damaging our economy in the 80s. Not sure if it was black Wednesday or not.

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    Re: In recession.

    Some incredible claims being made in this thread as to the causes of this latest recession - a link backing up the claims would have been handy.

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927 View Post
    Nigel Lawson or Norman Lamont.
    I know Soros devalued our currency causing chaos, making a fortune, and damaging our economy in the 80s. Not sure if it was black Wednesday or not.
    Good spot - Norman Lamont it was. Regretting ‘rien’ in his bath

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I had high hopes that your Christian, caring side would realise what a bunch of tossers the Tories are but you remain one of those strange people that walk into a food bank to contribute but seem blind to the fact voting tory is the reason they are there
    Yes you're right - as you know Food banks were introduced in the UK in 1997 - Tony Blair was the PM in 97
    Over to a more socialist country like France, food banks were started in 1984.
    UK and France approx same population figure 60-65 million
    France throughput 4 times the amount as UK foodbanks - is that the Tories fault as well posh boy ?

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Economies currently in recession

    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    Japan
    Luxembourg
    Moldova
    Peru
    Ireland
    United Kingdom
    Germany’s close too, if they can’t see an upturn then the rest of us are doomed…..

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Yes you're right - as you know Food banks were introduced in the UK in 1997 - Tony Blair was the PM in 97
    Over to a more socialist country like France, food banks were started in 1984.
    UK and France approx same population figure 60-65 million
    France throughput 4 times the amount as UK foodbanks - is that the Tories fault as well posh boy ?
    Of course….some dumbphucks still actually believe a change of tie colour will make a difference in this country….god help them. Look at the mess Blair left behind here and we won’t mention the Middle East, ruined since 2002…..

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Germany’s close too, if they can’t see an upturn then the rest of us are doomed…..
    Germany's economy is "dramatically bad," and "we cannot continue like this," said the Economy Minister and Green Party member Robert Habeck speaking this week

    Trump warmed Germany about the risks of being reliant on cheap Russian energy.
    German dignitaries laughed at him.
    Biden’s administration then destroyed Nord Stream to “punish Russia”.
    And here we are.

  11. #36

    Re: In recession.

    Even Sunak doesn’t come out with the sort of garbage seen in this thread defending the Government that was pledging growth this time last year and has delivered a recession

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Of course….some dumbphucks still actually believe a change of tie colour will make a difference in this country….god help them. Look at the mess Blair left behind here and we won’t mention the Middle East, ruined since 2002…..
    I know there is very little point trying to explain to numb nuts like sludge up in the vale re foodbanks - in his fantasy world he has the blue corner as the pantomime villain and the red corner as Peter Pan. He's labouring under a mis apprehension - but I guess that is something he likes.

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Even Sunak doesn’t come out with the sort of garbage seen in this thread defending the Government that was pledging growth this time last year and has delivered a recession
    It's all seems a bit unfair focusing on the person who made the pledge, rather than everybody else.

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Germany's economy is "dramatically bad," and "we cannot continue like this," said the Economy Minister and Green Party member Robert Habeck speaking this week

    Trump warmed Germany about the risks of being reliant on cheap Russian energy.
    German dignitaries laughed at him.
    Biden’s administration then destroyed Nord Stream to “punish Russia”.
    And here we are.
    #PrayForBlockchain

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Yes you're right - as you know Food banks were introduced in the UK in 1997 - Tony Blair was the PM in 97
    Over to a more socialist country like France, food banks were started in 1984.
    UK and France approx same population figure 60-65 million
    France throughput 4 times the amount as UK foodbanks - is that the Tories fault as well posh boy ?
    Do you think the food banks that are in existence now , in 2024 are the fault of Tony Blair, who let's be honest was almost as tory as you are or the current tory government ?

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Even Sunak doesn’t come out with the sort of garbage seen in this thread defending the Government that was pledging growth this time last year and has delivered a recession
    Dopey foot soldiers

    Absolute cannon fodder

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    I know there is very little point trying to explain to numb nuts like sludge up in the vale re foodbanks - in his fantasy world he has the blue corner as the pantomime villain and the red corner as Peter Pan. He's labouring under a mis apprehension - but I guess that is something he likes.
    The only thing you have done is explain absolutely nothing to a chimp who is staring back at you in the mirror

    It's all very well pretending you are politically unbiased but trawl back through your postings on here , they are a conservative party broadcasts wet dream

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Do you think the food banks that are in existence now , in 2024 are the fault of Tony Blair, who let's be honest was almost as tory as you are or the current tory government ?
    But you voted for him….what a difference he made. Starmer is basically blair agsin

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    Re: In recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    But you voted for him….what a difference he made. Starmer is basically blair agsin
    I voted for him until he invaded Iraq

    I certainly have never voted Tory but I reckon you have

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