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I'm not surprised, these days you can smell dope from the cars in front, they are actually smoking dope while driving
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68361610
An increasing number of people are getting behind the wheel after using cannabis and cocaine, according to one of Britain's top police officers.
Chief constable Jo Shiner of the National Police Chiefs Council said there was a "social acceptance" particularly among younger people.
Some forces made more arrests for drug-driving than drink-driving during December crackdowns, the BBC has found.
The Home Office said it was clamping down on the behaviour.
The National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) has released new arrest data following a campaign of roadside testing in December. It suggested that in England and Wales 48.5% of drug tests were positive, while 9.5% of breath tests for alcohol were positive.
Merseyside Police said it regularly catches more drug drivers than those over the alcohol limit and the problem is "highly prevalent".
Drug-driving 'alarmingly common', police warn
The BBC joined Merseyside officers on a roadside testing operation in Liverpool on Tuesday morning.
Within half an hour, preliminary drug wipe tests had detected cannabis or cocaine in the systems of three drivers. They were also breathalysed but weren't over the limit for alcohol.
All three were arrested and taken into custody for a blood test, which will determine whether they face further action.
Roads policing inspector Gavin Dixon said 85-90% of these forensic tests - which currently take at least four weeks to come back - do show a level of drugs above the limit.
He does not think there is yet the same social stigma around driving after taking drugs, compared with alcohol.
"I think people don't realise it's stays in your system as long [as it does], they don't think the police are out catching drug drivers. The reality is we are."
'Whole life destroyed'
Summer Mace, a 24-year-old trainee teacher from King's Lynn, knows all too well the devastating impact drug driving can have.
In January last year her mother, sister and stepfather were killed in a head-on collision with a driver who was under the influence of illegal drugs, just a few miles from their home.
Summer Mace
Now, Summer describes her life as a waking nightmare: "The moment those people are gone, your whole life has just been destroyed. It's absolutely shattered into a million pieces."
She wants tougher sentences for anyone caught drug driving, even if they don't cause an accident.
"If you have a harsh sentence that puts someone away, the moment they drug drive, that is going to deter people. But people…. just get a driving ban and a bit of a fine. They're not going to care."
Chief Constable Shiner also said stronger sentences were needed, particularly where someone was killed or seriously injured.
A government spokesperson said: "We have tough penalties and rigorous enforcement in place to screen suspected drug drivers at the roadside, and people found guilty of causing death by careless driving when under the influence of drugs can now face a lifetime prison sentence.
It said its 10-year drug strategy would "further help clamp down... by tackling the supply of illicit drugs whilst building a world class system of treatment for those who abuse drugs to help turn their life around."
A drug wipe test
Insp Dixon said: "Over the last few years we've seen year on year increases. Last year we arrested 2,700 people for drug driving, one of the highest in the country. And I think that's because of the effort and resources we've put into it."
Merseyside police recorded a particularly high number of drug driving arrests during its December Operation Limit campaign - 469, compared to 191 for drink driving.
The NPCC figures did not give a breakdown of drug and drink driving arrest by region so the BBC approached individual forces for their December figures.
Other police forces where drug-related arrests exceeded those for drink driving include Hampshire, Thames Valley, Greater Manchester, Sussex and North Wales.
Jo Shiner, the NPCC's Road Safety Lead, said: "We're definitely seeing more people who are driving under the influence of drugs. And there seems to be a social acceptance between those groups who do that, that it's okay. It's absolutely not."
She added that it was notable among younger drivers: "I think generally in society we're seeing more use of cannabis, for example, and we are definitely seeing that when we are stopping and testing drivers."
Since 2015 in England and Wales - a few years later in Scotland - it's been an offence to drive with above certain limits of specified illegal or prescription drugs. The law change was designed to make it easier to catch and convict drug drivers, and enabled roadside testing.
It was brought in after a campaign by the family of 14-year-old Lillian Groves, who was killed by a speeding driver who had smoked cannabis.
People convicted of drug driving may end up with a driving ban of one year or more, a fine, and up to 6 months in prison. Causing death by careless driving under the influence of drugs can carry a life sentence.
Katie's partner and dad of her three children Sam Morris was killed in a drug driving collision, she doesn't think people take risks of drug driving, and dangerous driving in general, seriously enough.
"The impact Sam's death has had on us as a family is unmeasurable and continues to unfold as time passes, our daughters are so young that as they grow new questions are asked", she said in a statement to the BBC.
"I believe that if you cause a death while driving unlawfully whether that is through drink or drugs or any other reason it should be treated as manslaughter.
"The laws around this need to change to bring a small amount of peace to my families like mine and hopefully deter anyone from getting behind the wheel when they are unfit to do so," Katie added.
Additional reporting by Adrian Bradley and Hope Rhodes.
Dope cheaper than lager
Aye it seems to have increased significantly over the last few years, ten years ago i never smelt it, now it's everywhere. Mental health issues in the next few decades will fly through the roof!Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Drug use, speeding up the body’s organs, seems to be being tolerated. Forty odd year olds with the hearts of 90 year olds snuffing it. Sorts out the looming state pension crisis. The government were pretty quick telling us how much they were helping us out financially during Covid whilst saying bugger all about how much was being saved with pensions and benefits being saved immediately with a victim ‘s passing away. The conspiracy theorist would claim it’s covertly trimming the population.
If young people are using this instead of alcohol then maybe it will reduce mental health problems
Don't think people realise though how long they need to give it before driving. Maybe there needs to be a real push on awareness, most sane people wouldn't consider drink driving these days.
Don't use it myself mind, chance would be a fine thing
Cannabis is used to treat mental health issues not create them.
You reckon?
4. Can cannabis affect my mental health?
Regular cannabis use can be linked to an increased risk of anxiety and
depression.22 But most research seems to have a focus on the link
between psychosis and cannabis.
Using cannabis can increase the risk of developing psychotic illness,
including schizophrenia.2324 There is a lot of reliable evidence to show a
link between the use of stronger cannabis and psychotic illnesses,
25
including schizophrenia.
26 But the link is not fully understood. 27
Cannabis can increase the chance of developing schizophrenia at an
earlier age. This is due to the THC levels having an effect on
schizophrenia.28
Cannabis may be one of the causes of developing a mental illness, but it
isn’t the only cause for many people.
5
Not everyone who uses cannabis will develop psychosis or schizophrenia.
And not everyone who has psychosis or schizophrenia has used cannabis.
But you are more likely to develop a psychotic illness if you smoke
cannabis. And you are ‘genetically vulnerable’ to mental health problems.
29
‘Genetically vulnerable’ means that you are naturally more likely to
develop a mental health problem. For example, if people in your family
have a mental illness, you may be more likely to develop a mental health
problem. If someone in your family has depression or schizophrenia, you
are at higher risk of getting these illnesses when you use cannabis.
Cannabis can have the following effects.
• Long term use can have a small but permanent effect on how well
you think and concentrate.
30
• Smoking cannabis can cause a serious relapse if you have a
psychotic illness.31
• Regular cannabis use can lead to an increased risk of later
developing mental illness. Especially if you use cannabis when you
are young.
32 33
You can find more information about, ‘Does mental illness run in
families’ at www.rethink.org. Or call our General Enquiries team on 0121
522 7007 and ask them to send you a copy of our factsheet.
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5. What is the difference between psychosis and schizophrenia?
Psychosis and schizophrenia aren’t the same illness.
Psychosis is the name given to symptoms or experiences, which include
hallucinations and delusions. Hallucinations make someone experience
things differently to other people. This might be seeing things or hearing
voices. Delusions are when people have unusual beliefs that other people
don’t have.
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Schizophrenia is a mental illness that affects how someone thinks or feels.
Symptoms of schizophrenia include hallucinations and delusions. But
often it will have other symptoms like feeling flat or emotionless, or
withdrawing from other people.
You can find more information about:
• Psychosis
• Schizophrenia
at www.rethink.org. Or call our General Enquiries team on 0121 522 7007
and ask them to send you a copy of our factsheet.
Is weed legal over there? Can you buy it in shops?
For medical use it is legal, although you need a forward thinking GP to prescribe it.
You can't buy it in shops.
59 people on a medical study is nothing, they probably felt better as people were talking to them and trying to help.
I don't believe in the medical version and it's different anyway.
I'm on about dopes on dope, who take it when driving and walking the streets, have a chat with anyone in your local mental health crisis team, and see what they think.
You don't know what you're talking about. I get medical cannabis on script. For chronic pain. Stop talking sh*t about things you know nothing about. It's dangerous.
Man cuts and pastes stuff off internet. None of this is in context. It's misinformation and dangerous. Stick to speed limits.
I thought you'd be on it the nonsense you spout, his article says it's better for depression not pain.
OK let all believe CN, smoking skunk is good for you, drive with it too it calms you down
Missinformation here from the experts - https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mental-hea...r-young-people
https://adf.org.au/insights/cannabis-mental-health/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/menta...weed-rcna84984
I thought you'd be on it the nonsense you spout, his article says it's better for depression not pain.
OK let all believe CN, smoking skunk is good for you, drive with it too it calms you down
Missinformation here from the experts - https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mental-hea...r-young-people
https://adf.org.au/insights/cannabis-mental-health/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/menta...weed-rcna84984
https://www.rethink.org/advice-and-i...mental-health/
Thanks for the links. Why not post a copy of your doctorate instead.I thought you'd be on it the nonsense you spout, his article says it's better for depression not pain.
OK let all believe CN, smoking skunk is good for you, drive with it too it calms you down
Missinformation here from the experts - https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mental-hea...r-young-people
https://adf.org.au/insights/cannabis-mental-health/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/menta...weed-rcna84984
People that have mental health issues with cannabis use are likely to have issues anyway.
Plenty of people are highly productive from cannabis use, they're not all lazy stoners like the media portrays.
Well said
It's lifestyle as well. that's a huge factor. The more affluent have addiction problems as well. Although the fallout is somewhat softened due to better living standards, more money, better routine, more support. If an individual is at a low point to start with, getting an addiction is likely to create even more problems. Plenty of pissheads, coke heads, addicted to prescription drugs in Cyncoed, we just don't see it or hear about it.
Yup. Affluent, functional addicts are all over the place. Some of them even wear uniforms and suits.It's lifestyle as well. that's a huge factor. The more affluent have addiction problems as well. Although the fallout is somewhat softened due to better living standards, more money, better routine, more support. If an individual is at a low point to start with, getting an addiction is likely to create even more problems. Plenty of pissheads, coke heads, addicted to prescription drugs in Cyncoed, we just don't see it or hear about it.
You God damn right......
Absolutely mateIt's lifestyle as well. that's a huge factor. The more affluent have addiction problems as well. Although the fallout is somewhat softened due to better living standards, more money, better routine, more support. If an individual is at a low point to start with, getting an addiction is likely to create even more problems. Plenty of pissheads, coke heads, addicted to prescription drugs in Cyncoed, we just don't see it or hear about it.
The drug takers need to be weeded out....
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