Historically big clubs

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Yes, but Newcastle weren't in the bottom division.

Wolves had barely more than 4k when they were relegated from Div 3 and 5.7k in their first promotion attempt in 1987.

Even in the old second division we would struggle to get 4500 when the likes of Newcastle were getting 20 k gates , in the same division

Our support just hasn't matched the big clubs historically

When we went up with Pompey in 1983 they got bigger gates

And clubs like Bradford are getting better gates now in division 4 than we were even in 2003 , riding on the crest of a wave with the team safe in a league higher

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Even in the old second division we would struggle to get 4500 when the likes of Newcastle were getting 20 k gates , in the same division

Our support just hasn't matched the big clubs historically

When we went up with Pompey in 1983 they got bigger gates

And clubs like Bradford are getting better gates now in division 4 than we were even in 2003 , riding on the crest of a wave with the team safe in a league higher

We only ever had one average attendance in the 2nd division below 5k and I'd be interested in the context of the whole of the 70s in terms of attendances.

1969-71 - in two seasons we averaged 21.5k. We then had 3 seasons dodging relegation, before finally succombing to the drop in 1975, averaging 9k. We put nearly 3k on that attendance in winning promotion back at the first attempt (another time we averaged more in a successful 3rd tier season than relegation from the 2nd), then saw crowds drift away in the early 80s, going from nearly 13k to 5.5k in the 2nd division in 5 seasons. Most of those seasons saw us struggle and crowds across the UK dwindled in the 80s, even with some of the biggest teams. Villa's crowd dropped by nearly 20k in 5 seasons after winning the league in 1980/81 as an example.

As for Bradford, you fail to mention many rubbish crowds in the 1990s and even in the mid 2000s. They've obviously got things right, and comparing League 2 with us in 2003 is a completely unfair comparison, given how crowds have kept increasing.

You try at every possibility to put down our support. You reckon I'm negative towards Bulut. You're fecking worse towards our current fans. I feel you can't wait for a crap crowd just so you can mouth off about how shit our support is. You should be disgusted with yourself.