"It's their cup final"

[the other bob wilson]

Well, just for once, I'd like to see my team show the desire, bravery and determination you get from a team that wants to win a cup final.

Also...

We've heard it said many times that we have no system and today showed that very starkly. Swansea are already adopting a style of play, after only a handful of games under this manager.

We’ve got a style of play, albeit it’s one that at least three of our last six managers have tried to wean us off. The Sky commentators were saying that Bulut tried to implement more of a passing game, but was forced to give up(like Neil Harris and Steve Morison before him - my guess is Lamouchi would have wanted to change things if he stayed) because the players were unable to play as he wanted. What I’d like to know is does it really take other teams four years, and counting, to change from a direct approach to a passing one?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

We’ve got a style of play, albeit it’s one that at least three of our last six managers have tried to wean us off. The Sky commentators were saying that Bulut tried to implement more of a passing game, but was forced to give up(like Neil Harris and Steve Morison before him - my guess is Lamouchi would have wanted to change things if he stayed) because the players were unable to play as he wanted. What I’d like to know is does it really take other teams four years, and counting, to change from a direct approach to a passing one?

We play like the Turkish fans said we would under Bulut. This is his style of play. He's signed lots of players on big money like Siopis, and has renewed players like Wintle and Ralls who apparently are part of the issue. I could accept this style of play if we played it aggressively and on the front foot but for the most part, it is God awful.

[the other bob wilson]

We play like the Turkish fans said we would under Bulut. This is his style of play. He's signed lots of players on big money like Siopis, and has renewed players like Wintle and Ralls who apparently are part of the issue. I could accept this style of play if we played it aggressively and on the front foot but for the most part, it is God awful.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that I read that Bulut was a defensive, counter attacking manager a day or two after we appointed him and it kind of set alarm bells ringing. I speculated that this may have had something to do with why he left Fenerbache so soon - given that clubs standing in the Turkish game, his approach was akin to Celtic or Rangers going to a place like Ross County hoping to nick a 1-0 win on the break.

I’m pleased that Bulut is less into long ball football than many of our recent managers, but the point I was making in my post was that the Sky commentators were right to say that he has had to adjust his approach somewhat because he has a squad that’s not best suited to playing more of a passing game. This is exactly what was being said about Neil Harris’ attempt to play more football and during Steve Morison’s first season, but that was four and three years ago respectively - apart from Joe Ralls I think, our squad is completely different from the one Harris had and yet the same problem exists, why?

It was Tuerto who first mentioned that even if Bulut has a lot of money to spend in the summer he would use it to bring in slightly better versions of the same sort of players we have now - no one on here can say for sure he was right in that view, but I strongly suspect he is. You mention Siopis - at his best, he’s a bit of an upgrade on Ralls and Wintle, but I often wonder why we signed because, essentially, he’s just more of the same. Yesterday, Siopis reminded me of Will Vaulks on a bad day - always arriving where he should be slightly too late to have any influence on the game.