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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    ....I'll kick it off....

    Higgs boson: The 'God Particle' explained

    https://www.space.com/higgs-boson-go...cle-explained#
    Every article, documentry and report I have seen on Higgs Boson has been so vague it's obvious they are dipping their toes in an ocean of knowledge they don't really understand.
    The irony is, they call it the 'God Particle' yet all along the majority working on it would love to prove their theories and confirm that no such Being ever existed! Talk about a hopeless cause.

    The pride of mankind will never be exhausted

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Every article, documentry and report I have seen on Higgs Boson has been so vague it's obvious they are dipping their toes in an ocean of knowledge they don't really understand.
    The irony is, they call it the 'God Particle' yet all along the majority working on it would love to prove their theories and confirm that no such Being ever existed! Talk about a hopeless cause.

    The pride of mankind will never be exhausted
    Did you actually read the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Did you actually read the article?
    Yes, it was very similar to the others I have seen.
    What about it convinces you that it's actually significant re the origin of life and the Universe?

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    Nothing. And it doesn't pretend to do that (well, for life anyway, it will help us understand the origins of the Universe). And nor are scientists doing all this to try and disprove the existence of God. The article explains the background to how it got dubbed the God particle and how scientists feel that's not helpful. Blame the media for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Nothing. And it doesn't pretend to do that (well, for life anyway, it will help us understand the origins of the Universe). And nor are scientists doing all this to try and disprove the existence of God. The article explains the background to how it got dubbed the God particle and how scientists feel that's not helpful. Blame the media for that.
    Well so far they are well behind justifying the billions already spent on the project and that is before they blow another 20 billion euros on a much bigger beast of a collider which may or may not go ahead over the next decade.

    This is a section from THIS GUARDIAN ARTICLE which confirms all I have said about this project:-

    "But since the discovery of the Higgs boson, the collider has not revealed any significant new physics that might shed light on some of the deepest mysteries of the universe, such as the nature of dark matter or dark energy, why matter dominates over antimatter, and whether reality is permeated with hidden extra dimensions.

    Cern drew up plans for the next machine, the Future Circular Collider (FCC), in 2019. The €20bn (£17bn) machine would have a 91km circumference and aim to smash subatomic particles together at a maximum energy of 100 teraelectronvolts (TeV). The Large Hadron Collider achieves maximum energies of 14TeV.

    The proposal has its critics, however. Sir David King, the UK’s former government chief scientific adviser, told the BBC that spending billions on the machine would be “reckless” when the world was facing such grave threats from the climate crisis."

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Every article, documentry and report I have seen on Higgs Boson has been so vague it's obvious they are dipping their toes in an ocean of knowledge they don't really understand.
    The irony is, they call it the 'God Particle' yet all along the majority working on it would love to prove their theories and confirm that no such Being ever existed! Talk about a hopeless cause.

    The pride of mankind will never be exhausted
    The quest of quantum physicists, especially in their study of the Higgs boson, is a journey deeply rooted in understanding the fundamental particles and forces that shape our universe.

    The nickname 'God Particle,' coined more for its elusiveness and crucial role in particle physics than for any theological implications, often misleads people into thinking there's a direct confrontation with the concept of God or faith. However, it's crucial to distinguish that the objective of science is to explore and explain the natural world through empirical evidence and logical reasoning, not to disprove religious beliefs or the existence of a deity.

    Most scientists, including quantum physicists, approach their work with an open-minded curiosity, driven by a desire to discover and understand, rather than to disprove religious or spiritual theories. Theories and experiments like those involving the Higgs boson are tools for unraveling the complexities of the physical universe, not for making statements about metaphysical beliefs.

    Engaging in dialogues that pit science against faith, or vice versa, in a superior manner can be counterproductive and overlook the fact that many individuals find harmony in embracing both scientific understanding and spiritual beliefs.

    Asserting one's faith or scientific viewpoint as superior can inadvertently reflect insecurity in one’s own beliefs rather than providing a robust defense of them. It's more constructive to recognise the vastness of both the known and the unknown.

    Personally, I find articles like the one I posted inspire a sense of wonder and humility in me, regardless of personal beliefs.

    If some god has a plan and uses, say earthquakes as a means of communication, then it seems perfectly logical that the same god could use the language and study of quantum physics too. In other words, that god, could use scientific language as a communication tool.

    I've deliberately used a lower case 'god' to be inclusive of all gods and not single out any god or person who worships said god of their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Personally, I find articles like the one I posted inspire a sense of wonder and humility in me, regardless of personal beliefs.

    If some god has a plan and uses, say earthquakes as a means of communication, then it seems perfectly logical that the same god could use the language and study of quantum physics too. In other words, that god, could use scientific language as a communication tool.

    I've deliberately used a lower case 'god' to be inclusive of all gods and not single out any god or person who worships said god of their choice.
    God's fingerprint can be found in good science and all sorts of science can be found in God's Word. It's a fact that Newton spent more time studying the (original) Hebrew & Greek text of the Bible than he did in his own research of the world around him!

    The Bible makes this comment re the evidence we all have the opportunity to examine:-

    For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God - Romans 1:20

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    Re: The All Things GOD thread....

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    The quest of quantum physicists, especially in their study of the Higgs boson, is a journey deeply rooted in understanding the fundamental particles and forces that shape our universe.

    The nickname 'God Particle,' coined more for its elusiveness and crucial role in particle physics than for any theological implications, often misleads people into thinking there's a direct confrontation with the concept of God or faith. However, it's crucial to distinguish that the objective of science is to explore and explain the natural world through empirical evidence and logical reasoning, not to disprove religious beliefs or the existence of a deity.

    Most scientists, including quantum physicists, approach their work with an open-minded curiosity, driven by a desire to discover and understand, rather than to disprove religious or spiritual theories. Theories and experiments like those involving the Higgs boson are tools for unraveling the complexities of the physical universe, not for making statements about metaphysical beliefs.

    Engaging in dialogues that pit science against faith, or vice versa, in a superior manner can be counterproductive and overlook the fact that many individuals find harmony in embracing both scientific understanding and spiritual beliefs.

    Asserting one's faith or scientific viewpoint as superior can inadvertently reflect insecurity in one’s own beliefs rather than providing a robust defense of them. It's more constructive to recognise the vastness of both the known and the unknown.

    Personally, I find articles like the one I posted inspire a sense of wonder and humility in me, regardless of personal beliefs.

    If some god has a plan and uses, say earthquakes as a means of communication, then it seems perfectly logical that the same god could use the language and study of quantum physics too. In other words, that god, could use scientific language as a communication tool.

    I've deliberately used a lower case 'god' to be inclusive of all gods and not single out any god or person who worships said god of their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    The quest of quantum physicists, especially in their study of the Higgs boson, is a journey deeply rooted in understanding the fundamental particles and forces that shape our universe.

    The nickname 'God Particle,' coined more for its elusiveness and crucial role in particle physics than for any theological implications, often misleads people into thinking there's a direct confrontation with the concept of God or faith. However, it's crucial to distinguish that the objective of science is to explore and explain the natural world through empirical evidence and logical reasoning, not to disprove religious beliefs or the existence of a deity.

    Most scientists, including quantum physicists, approach their work with an open-minded curiosity, driven by a desire to discover and understand, rather than to disprove religious or spiritual theories. Theories and experiments like those involving the Higgs boson are tools for unraveling the complexities of the physical universe, not for making statements about metaphysical beliefs.

    Engaging in dialogues that pit science against faith, or vice versa, in a superior manner can be counterproductive and overlook the fact that many individuals find harmony in embracing both scientific understanding and spiritual beliefs.

    Asserting one's faith or scientific viewpoint as superior can inadvertently reflect insecurity in one’s own beliefs rather than providing a robust defense of them. It's more constructive to recognise the vastness of both the known and the unknown.

    Personally, I find articles like the one I posted inspire a sense of wonder and humility in me, regardless of personal beliefs.

    If some god has a plan and uses, say earthquakes as a means of communication, then it seems perfectly logical that the same god could use the language and study of quantum physics too. In other words, that god, could use scientific language as a communication tool.

    I've deliberately used a lower case 'god' to be inclusive of all gods and not single out any god or person who worships said god of their choice.
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